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Flight level 270 - Possible Scam

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We recently had at least two members who received a PM from FlightLevel 270 asking them to visit his website.  His website was selling very expensive products, $2000 - $5000 dollars for some hardware.  His site stated it was the first Nigerian Online Aviation Website and the site was professionally done and looked very real.  One has to wonder how the delivery of a $5000 piece of hardware would have gotten to the buyer(s).  Some may be familiar with the infamous Nigerian scam (Google) which was extremely successful. 

If anyone received an e-mail from Flight Level 270, please do not respond to it or be aware that it could be a scam.  We have banned Flight Level 270 permanently and removed his topics used to spam our website.  An investigation of his IP address revealed he is on at least eight (8) major blacklists.  So please be careful!!

Jim

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One of the more interesting things about various incarnations of the 'Spanish Prisoner/419' scams, is that because most reasonably savvy web users are aware that many of them originally emerged from Nigeria, it seems difficult to understand why scammers still say they are based there if it has such a reputation for scams, but there is actually a reason for that:

Since any 419 scam is essentially a confidence trick, like many confidence tricks, it is quite a labour intensive process for the scammer, usually requiring a few emails, phone calls and often some postal transactions where they send out some official-looking documents in order to make it seem legitimate. Because that is so labour intensive and in fact requires a bit of outlay on the part of the con artist, scammers use the mention of Nigeria as a filter, so that when they get a 'bite', they can reasonably assume the person who has responded is not very clued up, since they were not put off by the mention of Nigeria.

A scammer doesn't want to spend their time hooking someone who is likely to figure it out, so they deliberately make mention of Nigeria even when they may in fact not be based there at all. So one thing to watch out for, is if you trace IPs and such and find that emails are not coming from Nigeria, don't be surprised or make the mistake of thinking it might be legitimate because an IP tracks to the US or the UK or wherever.

Of course the use of mentioning Nigeria can backfire on the scammer; there are more than a few savvy people out there who get a kick out of pretending to have been fooled in order to string the scammer along and waste their time, which might not be the most productive way to spend their time, but it does at least mean whilst they are tying the scammer up and wasting their time, that scammer can't be scamming someone else.

I have actually done that in the past for a bit of a laugh. I told the scammer that I'd like to help him but couldn't because I'd already helped one Nigerian Prince to get 21 million Dollars out of the country and when I did help him to do that it caused me no end of trouble, because my local Post Office, where I deposited that 21 million Dollars, had to completely reinforce the building since it wasn't designed to safely hold such a massive amount of cash and they got very annoyed with me and told me not to put any more millions in there because they'd have to make further security modifications to the building again. :biggrin:

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I always figured  that Nigeria  must have either weak or nonexistent laws for punishing scammers. Besides, would you believe  somebody  who said that they were a Canadian  prince?

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Well these folks sent me a PM, first  to state they were following me and the second,with their ad.  I automatically became suspicious after seeing they were following me, as no one does currently and when the word Nigeria came up, I was immediately reminded of that nice young Prince who needed my help back in the 90's.

This really begs the question though:  are there really people out there that gullible to believe what they're selling?

 

All in all, I'm glad Jim and his crew are watching our backs.

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1 hour ago, Jimm said:

are there really people out there that gullible to believe what they're selling?

Yes. In fact only yesterday, in the UK's Daily Mail, there was a feature on their Money Advice pages, and customers of a well-known High Street bank chain with a Spanish owner, got scammed, one  for over £130000. And they displayed 3 text messages sent.Two were from the bank; the third was so close in resemblance to the genuine ones from the bank, but it was the scam text that caught a few out.

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9 minutes ago, vc10man said:

In fact only yesterday, in the UK's Daily Mail

Well I tend to take whatever they publish with a huge grain of salt.  Some of their articles rival that of the National Enquirer.

I should have added to my previous post that pure, common sense can go a long way.  If you're unsure about a business, you can always do further research online and if you can't find anything about the business, then it's definitely a scam.

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Out of curiosity I did a quick google search on Flight Level 270. One result was a link to the contact page that listed two stores. One in Nigeria. the other at 1131 Gorham street in Ontario, Canada with a phone number of 386-957-9612. Entered the Canadian address into Google maps, zoomed in, and it is apparently the location of Flight Deck Solutions with a different phone number. Googled 386-957-9612 and it is a Smyrna, Georgia telephone number. Sounds like they are using the Flight Deck Solutions address to make their shop appear real.

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8 minutes ago, Ted Striker said:

Out of curiosity I did a quick google search on Flight Level 270. One result was a link to the contact page that listed two stores. One in Nigeria. the other at 1131 Gorham street in Ontario, Canada with a phone number of 386-957-9612. Entered the Canadian address into Google maps, zoomed in, and it is apparently the location of Flight Deck Solutions with a different phone number. Googled 386-957-9612 and it is a Smyrna, Georgia telephone number. Sounds like they are using the Flight Deck Solutions address to make their shop appear real.

Ted

Just like an onion...the more you peel back the layers, the more it stinks. :biggrin:

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Coincidentally, my real name is in fact Abiade Abisola Abolanle, I am a Nigerian Prince, and I am having you a proposition for the Avsim's, which is offer the much wealthness to all...

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1 hour ago, Jimm said:

whatever they publish with a huge grain of salt

In normal circumstances, I'd agree with you,but this is a serious financial advice page, so they would have to be correct with facts, etc, otherwise they'd get their wrists slapped.

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4 minutes ago, vc10man said:

In normal circumstances, I'd agree with you,but this is a serious financial advice page, so they would have to be correct with facts, etc, otherwise they'd get their wrists slapped.

Ok, TWO grains of salt then. :biggrin:

Daily Mail is one of those examples of "shame me once, shame on you...shame me twice, shame on me".

I don't doubt that the story isn't true, it's just that many times, they tend to exaggerate the story to create just the right amount of drama to get attention.

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18 hours ago, Chock said:

One of the more interesting things about various incarnations of the 'Spanish Prisoner/419' scams, is that because most reasonably savvy web users are aware that many of them originally emerged from Nigeria, it seems difficult to understand why scammers still say they are based there if it has such a reputation for scams, but there is actually a reason for that:

In this particular instance the phone number listed on his website is a real Nigerian number...

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Personally I am very concerned about that first african astronaut who is out there drifting around all alone in space with no food since they can't afford to get him down and they therefore kindly ask you to contribute some money for his wellbeing. You ask yourself what kind of person falls for these tricks but one was actually the a former minister of finance in Finland (not the astronaut scam but some other equally unbelievable Nigerian ditto)

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Ah Nigeria... I remember many a horrible night stop in the Lagos Sheraton with an armed escort to and from to the hotel. Not to mention the passengers spitting at you on board to get your attention 

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For several years I was concerned that I was a victim of some sort of discrimination. Most of my friends had received a letter from a Nigerian bank offering them a really good deal. But, alas, I never got a letter. Then this arrived and I felt much better:  

CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA
OFFICE OF FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT
CBN HEADQUARTER ANNEX, TINUBU SQUARE
TINUBU LAGOS NIGERIA.
TEL:234-01-743-2771
EMAIL ADDRESS:info.remittancedpm@gmail.com
       
              YOUR IMMEDIATE CONTRACT PAYMENT
                                CONNTRACT#MAV/NNPC/FGN/MIN/2011
    
 
From the records of outstanding beneficairy due for payment with the Federal Government of Nigeria,your name and company was discovered as next on the list of the outstanding beneficaries who have not yet received their payments.

I wish to inform you that your payment is being processed and will be released to you as soon as you respond to this letter. Also note that from my record in my file your outstanding contract payment is US$12 000,000.00 (twelve million United States dollars).Kindly reconfirm to me the followings:

1) YOUR FULL NAME:
2) ADDRESS, CITY, STATE AND COUNTRY.
3) PHONE, FAX AND MOBILE
4) COMPANY NAME (IF ANY) POSITION AND ADDRESS
5) BANK NAME
6) BANK ADDRESS
7) ACCOUNT NUMBER
8) SWIFT CODE/ ROUTING NUMBER
9) PROFESSION, AGE AND MARITAL STATUS
10) COPY OF YOUR INT'L PASSPORT/DRIVERS LICENSE

As soon as this information is received, your payment will be made to you in a certified bank draft or wired to your nominated bank account directly from Central Bank of Nigeria.

PLEASE UPON THE RECEIPT OF THIS MAIL,KINDLY CONTACT THE OFFICE OF FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT AND YOU ARE ADVISED TO REPLY WITH THE REQUESTED INFORMATION ON THE BELOW EMAIL ADDRES CONTACT (info.remittancedpm@gmail.com) FOR URGENT ATTENTION.

YOURS FAITHFULLY
MR,PHILIP BROWN


MANAGER FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA

INFORMATION ON THE BELOW EMAIL ADDRES CONTACT (info.remittancedpm@gmail.com) FOR URGENT ATTENTION.

 

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On 5/16/2018 at 6:31 AM, tooting said:

Ah Nigeria... I remember many a horrible night stop in the Lagos Sheraton with an armed escort to and from to the hotel. Not to mention the passengers spitting at you on board to get your attention 

One UK-based airline was flying into a secondary airport in Nigeria, and had to cancel the route because of the general dishonesty, thieving, violence and scamming going on at every single point in the trip, starting at Heathrow, and then again once inside Nigeria. It began at checkin with the violence, or threats of violence of the Nigerian passengers being asked to pay excess baggage charges for all the crap they'd bought in the UK that they wanted to sell in Nigeria (huge industry: these people are nothing if not 'commercial'!), continued on with the stealing of the VOR beacons and generators close the airport (so the pilots were reluctant to fly for safety reasons), and ended with the cabin crew  extremely reluctant to crew the aircraft given the behaviour of the passenger (spitting at them was just one part of it @tooting!) and needing a set of gun-toting security guards to take them from the airport to the crew hotel. The company decided the behaviour of the Nigerians just wasn't worth the risks, even though the fares were astronomical, and on paper, the route was predicted to make millions.

Luckily, no-one using FSX has to deal with these problems - the VORs can't be stolen or destroyed, the crew can make their own way to the hotel, and you can avoid weight and balance issues by just setting a few numbers in FSX!

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On 3/30/2017 at 1:12 PM, Chock said:

it seems difficult to understand why scammers still say they are based there if it has such a reputation for scams, but there is actually a reason for that:

Great explanation Chock...makes perfect sense when you explain it, but beforehand seems illogical!

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I remember my first time i went to Lagos, it was in 2006 i think.  I sat on the flight deck for the landing (on the 747).  on finals at around 0500 am local at about 10nm out we still couldnt see the runway, skipper called up tower to confirm the DME on the ils and the tower controller replied "ah sorry boss ill turn the lights on"  10 seconds later the runway lights turned on.  to which the skipper turned around to me and said "good here innit mate"   

ohh halcyon days, I do miss it sometimes

 

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17 hours ago, p2409a said:

One UK-based airline was flying into a secondary airport in Nigeria, and had to cancel the route because of the general dishonesty, thieving, violence and scamming going on at every single point in the trip, starting at Heathrow, and then again once inside Nigeria. It began at checkin with the violence, or threats of violence of the Nigerian passengers being asked to pay excess baggage charges for all the crap they'd bought in the UK that they wanted to sell in Nigeria (huge industry: these people are nothing if not 'commercial'!), continued on with the stealing of the VOR beacons and generators close the airport (so the pilots were reluctant to fly for safety reasons), and ended with the cabin crew  extremely reluctant to crew the aircraft given the behaviour of the passenger (spitting at them was just one part of it @tooting!) and needing a set of gun-toting security guards to take them from the airport to the crew hotel. The company decided the behaviour of the Nigerians just wasn't worth the risks, even though the fares were astronomical, and on paper, the route was predicted to make millions.

Luckily, no-one using FSX has to deal with these problems - the VORs can't be stolen or destroyed, the crew can make their own way to the hotel, and you can avoid weight and balance issues by just setting a few numbers in FSX!

This is the exact behaviour airlines flying into and out of Nigeria can expect from Nigerian passengers. One does not have to travel too far to see this kind of behaviour. Go to any sale being held in a department store here in the UK/USA and the same rush-the-doors-scam-the-sales-floor obnoxious behaviour can be seen there. Taking back UK/US made good to sell at a racket is nothing new. Only a few days ago a nurse in the NHS reported how drugs to treat HIV-related were taken back to African countries to re-sell at huge profits.

No wonder they are such a pariah State. 5th largest producer of oil, but where has tall the wealth disappeared to? I had a niece from Australia working for Shell there on a secondment. She related all the abject poverty she witnessed.

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Yes @vc10man, you can see the behaviour all over the world. It's very sad - a country with so much potential, and the ability to give all its citizens a great standard of living, but not to be given the corruption. As individuals, the Nigerians I have met over the years have all been lovely, interesting people...but they all extremely commercial and eager to get ahead financially, regardless of the way they do it!

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