12 minutes ago, captain bligh said:

I can understand companies wanting to make this decision but at the moment it is premature. Products made for fsx still outsell all the other sims put together , P3Dv4 is as good as dead they have had how many years to make fsx better ???  in all that time they have slightly improved the graphics and gone 64bit, this should have been done 5 years ago !!!   but like sheep we go and pay for a minor upgrade every year and we are still stuck with the flight dynamics from fs2000 as well as the scenery which when one looks at V4 looks really grim. I am tired of playing the LM game , I have been playing with the XP11 demo for some months now and am convinced that having seen the differences in the 2 companies at flightsimcon the way forward for me is XP11 it is after all currently 2 years ahead of P3D v4 with decent scenery and night time graphice that LM can only dream of and XP will only stretch that lead further and further as LM has only 2 speeds for its development , dead slow and stopped.

 

 

Goodbye 

We are loving v4 

 Now I know why Fletcher Christian threw him off the ship...

😊

 

 

25 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

 Now I know why Fletcher Christian threw him off the ship...

😊

 

 

LOL

Since P3Dv3 will soon not be available to purchase any longer at LM, most newcomers will go to P3Dv4.  Plus I am seeing many folks finally letting go of FSX and are looking for the next evolution and P3Dv4 offers an attractive place.  As an add-on developer, I can see why the tilt is onto P3Dv4.  However, I would say as a user of P3Dv3, even if the developer stop supporting P3Dv3 in adding new products, what I will only miss are the new products.  If I am happy with the current set then why bother, as it will just leave more money in the pocket.  I was one of those earlier jumper, and initially I did get the performance gain and the stutters free with limited add-on support.  However, now that I got all of the usual add-on back, the gain is minimal, so P3Dv4 is mostly about removing the memory limit for me.  This is a cross road, at sometime in the very near future, I might just decide to just stay with 3.4 until all the smoke is clear and then I reevaluate if the extracost or repurchase add-on is worth the trouble.

11 hours ago, vgbaron said:

I am in TOTAL agreement here. P3D4 is just the tip of the iceberg. With the beginnings of "standardization" and 64bit it will give developers the confidence to expend the man hours coming up with new fantastic product because they know the will have a stable platform.

Much to be excited about I think.

Vic

Agreed that this is the first big step, but also the first ;-) After some initial enthusiasm from me, I am now into a wait and see mode, until things shake out.  For the style of simming I do, v3.4 or XP11 are good enough for now.  I would also like to add a word of caution to developers too, just because P3Dv4 now remove the memory shackle that does not mean that you are now going to be wasteful with too much eye candies and ended up bog down the sim and still cause OOM.  The FSX-P3D franchise's developers are newbies when it comes to development for 64 bit, once can only hope that the habit of having to deal with the 32bit box and be efficient stays.  More reasons for me to stay put and watch.

Not much discussion here about the new Steam sim still under development. It's 64 bit, FSX and legal for hobbyist to purchase and use. I don't know to what degree but according to them FSX addons will be compatible. Worth watching before making such a sizable investment.

17 minutes ago, PATCO LCH said:

Not much discussion here about the new Steam sim still under development. It's 64 bit, FSX and legal for hobbyist to purchase and use. I don't know to what degree but according to them FSX addons will be compatible. Worth watching before making such a sizable investment.

Well Vic, mainly because this is the Prepar3D forum. If one wants to discuss XP or Steam - they have their own forums. Inevitably the thread goes south with each proclaiming that their sim is better.

Vic   <--the other one

I am pretty sure that FSX addons will not be compatible with FS World.

4 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I am pretty sure that FSX addons will not be compatible with FS World.

Nope, in fact they already are not for the most part even in its early access state. You can shoehorn some of them in with a tweak to the aircraft file, and sceneries will probably go in without too many problems. Having tried it with a few aeroplanes, out of curiosity, i know some work better than others if you do that, but VCs are always unclickable in any aeroplane you try that with. What that probably does mean is that for many fsx add ons, it won't be too difficult for a developer to make their product fsw compatible, but they will have to have used more recent methods to create gauges and such.

3 hours ago, Anxu00 said:

Since P3Dv3 will soon not be available to purchase any longer at LM, most newcomers will go to P3Dv4.

To my knowledge, it is still possible to even purchase P3D v1 from LM's store (a version that is already 7 years old!), so I doubt that version 3 will soon not be available.

3 hours ago, vgbaron said:

Well Vic, mainly because this is the Prepar3D forum. If one wants to discuss XP or Steam - they have their own forums. Inevitably the thread goes south with each proclaiming that their sim is better.

Vic   <--the other one

Greetings to the other Vic,

Sorry my friend, I didn't want to offend anyone but since the thread was about developers abandoning the older sims in favor of P3D, I felt that opened the thread to the rest of us for discussion.

As long as posters can keep it civil - go for it - but if and when it goes south..........

I know, I'm a grump.  

 

Vic

5 hours ago, Anxu00 said:

Since P3Dv3 will soon not be available to purchase any longer at LM, most newcomers will go to P3Dv4.  Plus I am seeing many folks finally letting go of FSX and are looking for the next evolution and P3Dv4 offers an attractive place.  As an add-on developer, I can see why the tilt is onto P3Dv4.  However, I would say as a user of P3Dv3, even if the developer stop supporting P3Dv3 in adding new products, what I will only miss are the new products.  If I am happy with the current set then why bother, as it will just leave more money in the pocket.  I was one of those earlier jumper, and initially I did get the performance gain and the stutters free with limited add-on support.  However, now that I got all of the usual add-on back, the gain is minimal, so P3Dv4 is mostly about removing the memory limit for me.  This is a cross road, at sometime in the very near future, I might just decide to just stay with 3.4 until all the smoke is clear and then I reevaluate if the extracost or repurchase add-on is worth the trouble.

Where do you get this impression?

You can still purchase licenses for all versions of P3D, including v1 directly from LM - I don't see them removing v3 any time soon

12 hours ago, captain bligh said:

P3Dv4 is as good as dead they have had how many years to make fsx better ???  in all that time they have slightly improved the graphics and gone 64bit, this should have been done 5 years ago !!!  

It's difficult to comprehend for some but P3Dv4 isn't FSX and not even close to dead lol,

Maybe for some, certainly not the majority to put things in perspective...

As for ending older versions it makes seance, in the long run we all benefit form that instead of holding on to the past ;-)

Just as Kentuckians appear to me to be 10 years behind, so too does the flightsim world strike me as at least a decade behind other gaming and 3D trends and tech. So, operating from that perspective, we need the best catalyst we can find in order to move this community forward, kicking and screaming into 2007. Maybe that's an enhanced, 64-bit version of FSX, maybe it's not. But we need progress... badly...