October 27, 20178 yr Hi Folks, In the market for a new GNS... Now we have two choices - competition is good... I see that after paying around $120.00 for both GTN versions - Flight1 now includes them both for a single package lower price - I would assume as a direct result of competition with RXP... =========================== Flight1 - GNS 430/530 - $54.00 vs RXP - GNS 430 - $49.95 RXP - GNS 530 - $49.95 =========================== So - while I appreciate Jean-Luc being back in the game - the obvious price choice seems to fall to Flight1... I don't see any price break for customers who owned previous versions of RXP products and I owned just about everything they made... LOL - I've purchased (4) GNS units from them already - both WAAS and Non-WAAS versions of the 430/530... Is there any compelling reason - other than price - to choose one vendor over the other ? They obviously both use the same trainer software produced by Garmin... Thanks... Regards, Scott
October 27, 20178 yr 30 minutes ago, scottb613 said: Hi Folks, In the market for a new GNS... Now we have two choices - competition is good... I see that after paying around $120.00 for both GTN versions - Flight1 now includes them both for a single package lower price - I would assume as a direct result of competition with RXP... =========================== Flight1 - GNS 430/530 - $54.00 vs RXP - GNS 430 - $49.95 RXP - GNS 530 - $49.95 =========================== So - while I appreciate Jean-Luc being back in the game - the obvious price choice seems to fall to Flight1... I don't see any price break for customers who owned previous versions of RXP products and I owned just about everything they made... LOL - I've purchased (4) GNS units from them already - both WAAS and Non-WAAS versions of the 430/530... Is there any compelling reason - other than price - to choose one vendor over the other ? They obviously both use the same trainer software produced by Garmin... Thanks... Regards, Scott Excellent support. As a frequent visitor to their forum RXP Flight Sim Jean-Luc has responded to customers questions, issues, and suggestions on an almost daily basis except maybe on weekends. I too have purchased all RXP products from 2005 onwards. Have been very happy with the latest products GNS 430/530 and GTN 650/750. I had purchased the F1 GNS for P3D before RXP's latest releases but it wasn't up to the same quality IMHO.
October 27, 20178 yr RXP MSFS & XP11 - Aviatek G1000 Complex Desktop Trainer - Fulcrum One Yoke - TPR Rudder Pedals - VF TQ6 Throttle - LG 55" OLED Display
October 27, 20178 yr The Flight 1 GNS 530/430 includes this important note: Product Note: The product does not include keyboard/joystick support for buttons/knobs. Crossfill/TCAD features will be available as a plug-in (for an additional cost) in the future.
October 27, 20178 yr On 10/27/2017 at 2:52 PM, LDP1949 said: The Flight 1 GNS 530/430 includes this important note: Product Note: The product does not include keyboard/joystick support for buttons/knobs. Crossfill/TCAD features will be available as a plug-in (for an additional cost) in the future. This is very important if you use, or plan to use, Goflight or Saitek modules. I have a Goflight module set up for the RXP GNS 530 (which does have controller/knob support) so that I never have to use my mouse with the RXP GNS 530. Much more realistic twisting knobs and pushing buttons with my fingers than with a mouse! Forever indebted to the late Michael Greenblatt of FSGS.
October 28, 20178 yr 9 hours ago, scottb613 said: Is there any compelling reason - other than price - to choose one vendor over the other ? Flight1 has always been there supporting their stuff, even in those dark days after ACES disbanded and demand for FSX products started tapering way off. The RXP developer, OTOH, disappeared on us, was completely absent from his forums, and left his customers high and dry without support--for years. Fool me once... Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
October 28, 20178 yr The RXP units come with Crossfill.. that might matter if you have more than one unit in the panel. They also come with a "no bezel" option.. may or may not matter to you.. Bert
October 28, 20178 yr Author Hi Folks, Thanks one and all for your input - much appreciated... I haven’t decided yet but plenty to consider... Regards, Scott
October 28, 20178 yr Commercial Member Scott, I guess it's difficult for most of us to make direct comparisons between the two principal GNS products on the market because the likelihood is that we'll buy either one or the other. In my case it was the RXP GNS 530 and I've been more than happy with the product itself and the support from Jean-Luc. As an RXP customer from a while back, I'm well aware of the hiatus in terms of development and support for existing products, but I welcome the return of RXP: competition drives innovation and all that! My decision to go for the RXP offering was driven mostly by the richer set of features. However, I'll admit that the pricing made me think carefully. Although the RXP products are very good value compared to F1's original pricing structure, F1 did drop their prices dramatically as you noted. I also suspect this was a direct result of the reemergence of RXP as an active developer for FSX/P3D. Whilst I didn't expect RXP to match the new pricing level set by F1, I hoped for something like a half price 430 for 530 customers, and vice-versa. 20 hours ago, scottb613 said: Is there any compelling reason - other than price - to choose one vendor over the other ? They obviously both use the same trainer software produced by Garmin... It's worth pointing out that although both products use the Garmin trainer, the RXP GNS units use an updated version 3.3 which is compatible with newer database files from the GTN trainer. There are also a number of other features which seem useful to me: the keyboard shortcuts as mentioned above, the excellent in-sim GUI for changing settings and of course the TAWS-B/TCAD and crossfill functions. Another factor which drew me to the RXP was the fact that the pop-up display doesn't disable the unit's screen in the VC. New features are being added continually and one that I really like is the fact that the NAV volume control can be used to adjust the volume of morse idents. (I believe it works by adjusting the global 'cockpit sounds' level.) There are a few things I don't like with the RXP implementation though. The COMM volume switch on the bezel works too, but its power-off position isn't implemented at present, though I'm hopeful it will be with a future update. The wind vector is also missing, though J-L has indicated that this may be fixed in the next update too. I also dislike the startup screen somewhat, specifically the fact that it shows a "registered to [my name]" message or words to that effect, which is a bit of an immersion killer in my opinion. Anyway, my vote is for RXP! Nick Nick M - A2A Simulations
October 28, 20178 yr 33 minutes ago, Nick M said: Scott, I guess it's difficult for most of us to make direct comparisons between the two principal GNS products on the market because the likelihood is that we'll buy either one or the other. In my case it was the RXP GNS 530 and I've been more than happy with the product itself and the support from Jean-Luc. As an RXP customer from a while back, I'm well aware of the hiatus in terms of development and support for existing products, but I welcome the return of RXP: competition drives innovation and all that! My decision to go for the RXP offering was driven mostly by the richer set of features. However, I'll admit that the pricing made me think carefully. Although the RXP products are very good value compared to F1's original pricing structure, F1 did drop their prices dramatically as you noted. I also suspect this was a direct result of the reemergence of RXP as an active developer for FSX/P3D. Whilst I didn't expect RXP to match the new pricing level set by F1, I hoped for something like a half price 430 for 530 customers, and vice-versa. It's worth pointing out that although both products use the Garmin trainer, the RXP GNS units use an updated version 3.3 which is compatible with newer database files from the GTN trainer. There are also a number of other features which seem useful to me: the keyboard shortcuts as mentioned above, the excellent in-sim GUI for changing settings and of course the TAWS-B/TCAD and crossfill functions. Another factor which drew me to the RXP was the fact that the pop-up display doesn't disable the unit's screen in the VC. New features are being added continually and one that I really like is the fact that the NAV volume control can be used to adjust the volume of morse idents. (I believe it works by adjusting the global 'cockpit sounds' level.) There are a few things I don't like with the RXP implementation though. The COMM volume switch on the bezel works too, but its power-off position isn't implemented at present, though I'm hopeful it will be with a future update. The wind vector is also missing, though J-L has indicated that this may be fixed in the next update too. I also dislike the startup screen somewhat, specifically the fact that it shows a "registered to [my name]" message or words to that effect, which is a bit of an immersion killer in my opinion. Anyway, my vote is for RXP! Nick Nick, Well stated and I think the RXP support has been excellent.
October 28, 20178 yr Author Hi Nick, WOW - now THAT's a PIREP - thanks so much for taking the time to write it up and sharing your insights... Regards, Scott
October 28, 20178 yr My needs are not managed by price (there is not so much difference between both product) but by functionalities and quality. i own GTN (750+650) and GNS (530+430) from both F1 and RXP. i must admit RXP is a better product. No one fps loss (compare to Flight1 units that eats my fps) even with both VC and popup displayed, unit more responsive (not lag), far better graphic rendering, crossfill for GNS, units settings inside the sim without having to restart, hardware and shortcut support, can use default sim gps event, export GTN/GNS Flight plan to the sim (can be automatic), lastest trainer support (i like visual approach). better Taws managment, And i can continue... The support ? the few issue i had has been resolve into the week with an update. they have diseapers in the past ? i don't care, they are here now and responsive with a better product and full of projects for future (G500/600 for example but not only). I have uninstall F1 units. there are not bad, they are good, but rxp ones are just better (for what i'm searching for.). So my vote is for RXP i9-10850k - Asus Tuf Z490+ - 32 Go DDR4 - RTX 3070 8Go MSI Trio X
October 29, 20178 yr Does anyone know if the RXP GNS integrates with Flysimware's Cessna C441, 402C or Lear 35A? Thanks. Version: P3Dv5.4, P3Dv6 CPU: Core i7-13700K @ 5.5 GHz with HT on, GPU: RTX 3080 12GB, RAM: 32GB DDR-5, MONITOR: 32" 4K with G-Sync enabled, OS: Win10 22H2, Target Frame Rate: P3D 120, NCP Max Frame Rate 35.
October 29, 20178 yr You basically have to use their RXP in-sim config app to set it up. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
October 29, 20178 yr That helps a lot. Thank you. Version: P3Dv5.4, P3Dv6 CPU: Core i7-13700K @ 5.5 GHz with HT on, GPU: RTX 3080 12GB, RAM: 32GB DDR-5, MONITOR: 32" 4K with G-Sync enabled, OS: Win10 22H2, Target Frame Rate: P3D 120, NCP Max Frame Rate 35.
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