November 25, 20178 yr On 11/17/2017 at 6:43 PM, NBouc said: Frustrated by the low FPS issue in P3D4 on Windows 10 1709 (16299.64) and not having any clue as to why, I decided to fallback to Windows 10 1703 (15063.674) and everything is back to normal. I don't know what to tell you, I'm running 4.1 on the very same build and am having no problems, mine updated to that build about 1 1/2 weeks ago. Never noticed any difference in FPS Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700F CPU @ 2.90GHz (8 cores) Hyper on, Evga RTX 3060 12 Gig, 32 GB ram, Windows 11, P3D v6, and MSFS 2020 and a couple of SSD's
November 25, 20178 yr Author 1 hour ago, jimcarrel said: I don't know what to tell you, I'm running 4.1 on the very same build and am having no problems, mine updated to that build about 1 1/2 weeks ago. Never noticed any difference in FPS Hi Jim, there is possibly something specific to my hardware that caused P3Dv4 to not perform well on 1709. Today, I updated a few drivers and my BIOS, which contains some new CPU microcode. I might give 1709 another go next week. I first installed Windows 10 at version 1507 about 2 years ago and never had any problem upgrading to subsequent versions, until 1709. Normand Intel i7 14700K @ 5.6 GHz / Asus ROG STRIX Z790E Wi-Fi / 64GB DDR5 6400 MHz / MSI RTX 4080 / PSU 1000 Watt / FS2020+FS2024 / Windows 11
December 13, 20178 yr Hello Normand, Just to let you know I have exactly the same issue (with similar hardware as yours). 50% FPS lost in P3DV4.1 after Windows 1709. Will revert back to 1703 when back to home. Olivier
December 13, 20178 yr Guys, did you really consider the tipps the people gave in this thread? Did you delete both your shaders and prepar3d.cfg after the update? Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
December 13, 20178 yr Updated yesterday and no problems. I did however run ccleaner after the update. Also ran disk optimization and cleared files as well as system files which include the direct x shader cache. That might be it considering it’s likely GPU related. Shanan ASUS Z170 PRO, I7 6700K @ 4.85ghz (HT ON), ZOTAC AMP EXTREME 1080TI GTX (OC), 16 GB DDR4 G.SKILL TRIDENTZ RGB @ 3230MHZ CL 16-17-17-33 (OC) 4X SSDS : WIN 10 (NVME 960 EVO) + P3D + OTHER GAMES, 2X WD BLACKS RAID 0 + 1 SEAGATE BARRACUDA, CORSAIR AX860i PSU, CORSAIR 760T CASE (BLACK), 27 INCH IPS PREDATOR GSYNC 165HZ 1440p + 24 INCH IPS DELL 1080p, THRUSTMASTER HOTAS FCS THROTTLE + FCS16000M CORSAIR K95 RGB + CORSAIR M65 RGB + CORSAIR MM800 POLARIS RGB, CORSAIR H115i v2, CREATIVE GIGAWORKS 7.1 + ASUS D2X XONAR
December 13, 20178 yr Commercial Member Guys, From my personal experience when I upgraded my WaterCooled PC to 1709 I started experiencing a lot of problems: Blue Screens CTD Random reboots. PD3 Freezing After days of troubleshooting my system is now stable, it seems Windows 10 1709 is pushing the hardware in a different way as I had to readjust my CPU Overclocking from 4.6Ghz to 4.5Ghz to make it stable again. As a test I reverted Windows to a previous version, put the OC back to 4. Ghzand the system was ok, installed 1709 one more time and the CTD and Blue Screens came back. To get my system fully stable this is what I did: 1) Update my motherboard BIOS to the latest version to address microcode issues. 2) Re-Adjusted my OC to a lower speed 3) Update all my drivers to the latest version including the NVidia video card. Best Regards, Simbol Oficial Website: https://www.FSReborn.com Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/XC82TqvKQ3
December 13, 20178 yr 50 minutes ago, simbol said: Guys, From my personal experience when I upgraded my WaterCooled PC to 1709 I started experiencing a lot of problems: Blue Screens CTD Random reboots. PD3 Freezing After days of troubleshooting my system is now stable, it seems Windows 10 1709 is pushing the hardware in a different way as I had to readjust my CPU Overclocking from 4.6Ghz to 4.5Ghz to make it stable again. As a test I reverted Windows to a previous version, put the OC back to 4. Ghzand the system was ok, installed 1709 one more time and the CTD and Blue Screens came back. To get my system fully stable this is what I did: 1) Update my motherboard BIOS to the latest version to address microcode issues. 2) Re-Adjusted my OC to a lower speed 3) Update all my drivers to the latest version including the NVidia video card. Best Regards, Simbol I haven’t read the release notes in detail but something tells me there was a major update to Direct X in the 1709 build. Explains why so many have hardware related issues suddenly. Shanan ASUS Z170 PRO, I7 6700K @ 4.85ghz (HT ON), ZOTAC AMP EXTREME 1080TI GTX (OC), 16 GB DDR4 G.SKILL TRIDENTZ RGB @ 3230MHZ CL 16-17-17-33 (OC) 4X SSDS : WIN 10 (NVME 960 EVO) + P3D + OTHER GAMES, 2X WD BLACKS RAID 0 + 1 SEAGATE BARRACUDA, CORSAIR AX860i PSU, CORSAIR 760T CASE (BLACK), 27 INCH IPS PREDATOR GSYNC 165HZ 1440p + 24 INCH IPS DELL 1080p, THRUSTMASTER HOTAS FCS THROTTLE + FCS16000M CORSAIR K95 RGB + CORSAIR M65 RGB + CORSAIR MM800 POLARIS RGB, CORSAIR H115i v2, CREATIVE GIGAWORKS 7.1 + ASUS D2X XONAR
December 29, 20178 yr I made the mistake and updated to 1709 and now my FPS are in the toilet were before they were running smooth as silk. I tried all the tips with no improvements Has there been any update to fix this issue? Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
December 29, 20178 yr I am running windows 10 updated and GeForce experience updated GPU Drivers, But I removed Xbox and game mode from my flight PC some months ago disabled Cortana, and use custom boot only programs I need are running in the background I disable most. Raymond Fry.
December 30, 20178 yr No 1709 for me either Don't have FPS issues but issues with Vsync and stuttering! For example , if I leave Vsync off and lock FPS at 60 , major screen tearing and waviness ( did not have this issue with 1703) I normally run large payware planes with Vsync on and unlimited FPS . Then major lag and stutter in turns ( again no issue with 1703). Therefore , re-installed Windows ( as trying to revert back from 1709 was a disaster where my P3d key was deleted and now I am stuck without a sim for this weekend- had to contact LM to re-activated my key) Staying with 1703 and NOT upgrading .
December 30, 20178 yr Sure seems like a vsync issue to me also on my 1080ti on Sony 4K. Tried rolling back to 1703 and the was a mess. Sticking with 1709 for now. Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
December 30, 20178 yr FYI - with the latest Nvidia driver 388.71 I had Vsync and Gsync issues on many titles. I have gone back to 388.59 and will stick with that for now. I don't use P3D any more but thought the info might be useful.
February 3, 20197 yr On 11/18/2017 at 7:57 AM, rampa said: be sure that "game mode" is not activated, on my pc the game mode makes P3D4 unplayable. Thanks! I hadn't flown since Christmas - I have been away, came back, Windows updated and my 100% perfect P3D4.4 with mainly Orbx suddenly became full of stutters. WFT!!!! Somehow the PC had gone into Game Mode. I ticked the box to Disable the Full Screen Optimizations in the application properties as also suggested in this thread. Now my sim is as smooth as butter again - Sooo happy! Thanks!!!!
February 3, 20197 yr I'm on 17763 - no problems. Latest nVidia drivers. 417.35 Cheers bs Edited February 3, 20197 yr by bean_sprout AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
February 5, 20197 yr I'm locking this thread, since it relates to an 18-month old Windows update that's been superceded twice since. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
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