Where's Mark Beaumont? This is like Christmas. Thanks for all the hard work and for keeping Kai Tak alive! This is awesome. :)BTW in UT, just change airport assingement from VHHH to VHHX,save then recompile. Piece of cake.http://www.cpavirtual.org/images/banners/MyNewCrapBanner.jpgEric Thornton - CX001www.cpavirtual.org

Well, I too am very excited to see Jim's work uploaded but confess to being totally confused as to what to do with the AI. I confess to being one of those who avoids mucking around with AI like the plague, reckoning I've got enough to worry about in FS without getting buried in endless work dealing with aircraft I may never even see! But clearly, if I am to see Jim's masterpiece, I have to do something here. Tom, Jim's instructions to activate AI are completely different to yours. Jim, these lines in your README confuse me totally, sorry:<<<<<>>>>>>>>What planes do your FP and AIRCRAFT files refer to? Are those UT, PAI, or Aardvaark planes? Do I need to go through the entire flightplans changing everything to planes I have already?<<<<>>>>>>>Why 'may', then, it being your file? It seems this would take forever ... how do I know whether I need to do this?Anyway, prior to seeing Tom's suggestions above, I tried decompiling my TRAFFIC file with TTools, adding in your aircraft and plans and recompiling. The compiler stalled, saying an aircraft in your AIRCRAFT file was not in your FLIGHTPLANS file, and wouldn't go any further. I recall this problem from before with other downloads, and once again remember why I don't like getting into all this! I'm probably stuffing up my FS good and proper.I do run all Tom's propliners as AI, so perhaps now I need to have a go using his instructions. Tom, your AI has been updated for VHHX, is that right? When I went to your site today I found an alternative file 5.Oh, this is all so confusing to a bear of little brain. Thanks for any suggestions on how to achieve all this without spending a week on it. Another important aspect seems to be the need to have an easy way to switch between Tom's and Jim's scenery without having to recompile TT, change AFCADs, rebuild navaids, switch landclass, etc. Or are most of these things common to both? The AFCADs can't be, presumably, owing to the different lengths of runway.MarkEDIT ... Hi Clutch, hi Eric. Sorry, been hiding on a beach in Florida, just got back.Mark "Dark Moment" BeaumontVP Fleet, DC-3 AirwaysTeam Member, MAAM-SIM[a href=http://www.swiremariners.com/cathayhk.html" target="_blank]http://www.paxship.com/maamlogo2.jpg[/a]

Guys,Just curious, what would be considered the best payware Kai Tak and Hong Kong scenery - love this package here but I think I want something to make the surrounding area look more realistic. Is there anything out there that's good for FS2004?

Amazing jobs guys, simply amazing! Scenery looks sweet and the approach light system looks very accurate!Add this file to make it even more realistic! I'm getting amazing FPS even with these files in it.Here are the details AVSIM library...Filename: hkautogen2.zipLicense: FreewareAdded: 2nd November 2003Downloads: 11402Author: Eddie ChanSize: 278kbA great real life Kai Tak video that shows the full approach is this...

Enjoy all.Randy

MarkYes, AI can be difficult which is why many companies put together packages.I am trying to find a simple solution to help out.Do you have any AI Planes flying to VHHH?If so we can divert those planes to VHHX.If you can identify which bgl those AI Planes flightplan are in (sceneryworldscenery folder) then I can make things work.At the bottom of my readme is a support e-mail address. Send me the correct FP bgl and I can divert the planes or use my FP's I uploaded if you want to keep VHHH open.Once I have the bgl I can decompile and find what AC#**** is used and work from that.hope this helps

Hi,Yes, all my propliner traffic packages have been updated. If you download and install the "XDEN" version it also is coded to use VHHX. If you already installed the original version you can just install the XDEN version right over the top and it will replace it.I understand that AI traffic can be difficult. Jim has provided some of his own flight plans that you can use directly, if you have the aircraft he uses (or change the aircraft.txt file to use yours). The other option is the one I posted - change your current traffic from VHHH to VHHX. In my instructions I mention how to change back and forth.To switch between Jim's 1998 and my 1963 versions will take no more than:1. Go the FS2004 Scenery library.2. Uncheck his Scenery Layer(s)3. Put a check next to my (2) scenery layers4. Click OK5. Restart FS.Hope this helps,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

Hi,Thanks!The approach lights were taken from a light beacon chart, and the appearance was as close as we could get using effects and default towers (for good frame rates).Take care,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

I just flew PMDG 747 from the new HongKong airport to the Old with real weather (AS6)Real weather at HongKong right about now Ceiling is 500 feet and raining visibility poor. I did a nice landing. (Hand flown):)Manny

Quick question,I can't get to see any arriving traffic. Installed per instructions, the scenery is working fantastic and departing traffic is fine and uses rwy 13.I'm using UT and the only change I made was to change the airport assignment from VHHH to VHHX. The afcad seems to be working fine as aircraft are parked correctly and depart from rwy 13. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Cheers,Petehttp://members.aol.com/pzsoulman/myhomepage/logo.gifAMD64-3400,1GB/2700DDRAM,WinXP(SP2),DirectX9.0c,Geforce6800(128MB)(Det.71.89), CH Yoke/Pedals

<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks, Tom. No issues with the different AFCADs, then? I'm exploring, not complaining, I should quickly add to my previous post. We've never had so many options for Kai Tak as we have now, with five freeware airports, the payware offerings, various mesh, landclass, autogen, etc. etc. Just a matter of working out which works best with which, now!MarkMark "Dark Moment" BeaumontVP Fleet, DC-3 AirwaysTeam Member, MAAM-SIM[a href=http://www.swiremariners.com/cathayhk.html" target="_blank]http://www.paxship.com/maamlogo2.jpg[/a]

You must have VHHX in the Airport*.txt, if it is not there, add it before compiling, ( not just changing VHHH to VHHX in the Flightplan*.text ). If you still cannot see arrivals than probably your arrival schedules are not in the timeframe when you watched.Peter

Jim, Thanks very much for this excellent work! It is unbelievable that this could be achieved with default objects. I would like to eliminate the risk of a memory leak. I do not know how to create a sub scenery folder as I have not seen it done before. Could you please tell me how to do it?

This is so cool! It's really great watching my ai planes making the big turn to line up with rwy 13. Thanks again for this great add-on!KP

i'm in love :)fantastic job guys,thanks a ton.cheersJP.

Thanks Peter, I guess I was too impatient ;-) Checked the airport.txt, VHHh was correctly substituted with VHHX. Then I compiled the arrival times with UT into a beautiful PDF to see arrival times and BINGO.I'm in love, I just added the autogen.zip mentioned further up, this looks better than anything I've ever seen in a sim for Kaitak. Kudos to everyone's efforts!!!Cheers,Petehttp://members.aol.com/pzsoulman/myhomepage/logo.gifAMD64-3400,1GB/2700DDRAM,WinXP(SP2),DirectX9.0c,Geforce6800(128MB)(Det.71.89), CH Yoke/Pedals