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I hope you are all aware that those fabolous numbers in comparison with a 1080ti are ONLY in regard of software supporting raytraycing? For P3D and other non-RT games, I expect nothing more than 20-30% compared to the 1080ti. I ceainly wait for reviews and benchmarks before I even think about buying a GPU for 1250€...

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For that price, why not just go get your PPL or more flight time. No GPU needed!

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I'd be very surprised to see any real improvement in Prepar3D V4 with these cards. It's been my experience that the bottleneck in Prepar3D V4 on my 4770K at 4.8ghz is the CPU so throwing 2080ti in won't make any value for money difference. Maybe for those running Later gen CPU at 5ghz+ it might make a difference but I doubt it. What would really make me sit up and pay attention is a 6ghz+ CPU but I cant see that happening anytime soon. Prepar3D V5 will be the next real game changer. I'll wait to see how that runs on my current system before I consider a new build. Although, I can see a lot of used 1080ti's on the market very soon if not already so I might pick one of those up in the interim.

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14 minutes ago, AnkH said:

I hope you are all aware that those fabolous numbers in comparison with a 1080ti are ONLY in regard of software supporting raytraycing? For P3D and other non-RT games, I expect nothing more than 20-30% compared to the 1080ti. I ceainly wait for reviews and benchmarks before I even think about buying a GPU for 1250€...

Is it likely that a new rendering engine in V5 will support raytracing.

Personally, I would wait until a few iterations of drivers have been proven to work.  The 10 series cards had their share of issues with drivers early on...stutters, lighting etc.

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18 minutes ago, ErichB said:

Is it likely that a new rendering engine in V5 will support raytracing.

Its likely that I will wait for it to see if this is true. Honestly, I have never read about this. Dont confuse pbr with rt, its not the same.

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7 hours ago, ayarov said:

Didn’t you say in a twitch stream that you are not allowed to own any stock in any country due to your job? I am confused. 

Good catch!

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AS I suspected there is already a whole bunch of used 1080ti posted on kijiji.ca here in Toronto in last couple of days for as low as CAD$700. So the sellers will likely take offers of CAD$600. That's US$460.

Far cheaper than they where a few weeks ago. The last time I looked they where listed for about CAD$1000 used!

Nvidia is going all in 100% on Ray tracing which must be baked in to any application to use it.  That is why these GPU'S are so massive, they have dedicated RT cores next to the tensor cores.  At no time during the demo did they show or mention anything about current hardware and how current applications will use the new architecture.  I really agree with those in the know that this is a stop gap release until the 7 nm GPU'S are released next year.

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18 hours ago, mpw8679 said:

The price of these cards is absolutely ridiculous.

Agreed.  What an effing joke / ive got a really nice job and id NEVER pay that much for a video card - absurd!  One could buy an entire pc for the cost of a 2080ti

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First things first, i am upgrading my current setup with i9 9900k and the new motherboard. And that will be cheaper than 2080 TI lol 😄

New cards are great and soooo tempting to get, i think i will skip this generation and wait for the following one, same like i skipped Samsung S9, waiting for S10 😄

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I wouldn't expect to see a single extra bit of FPS out of P3D, though I night be able to turn some effects, higher.

Where I think I will see a boost is in other sims that use the gpu more, such as X-plane, DCS, Aerofly, and in things in VR like Elite Dangerous, my racing sims and games, etc.

These new cards will have an entirely new VR interface (virtualLink) which not many are taking notice of, and I'm looking forward to move to the next level.

In fact, I suspect we should be prepared for surprise announcements of virtual link equipped next-generation headsets.

https://www.roadtovr.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-virtuallink-vr-connector/

https://sites.google.com/view/virtuallink-consortium/home?authuser=1

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Yeah, this is turning out to be a ridiculously expensive hobby. It is getting quite hard to justify the price of one of those graphics cards especially given the fact they'll be just about worthless in just a couple of years. I'm eyeing the 9900K and would like to add a 2080TI to that build but holy moly those prices are insane. 

If I knew I'd be getting 200% performance increases going from my 1080Ti/6700k @ 4.7 I'd go for it though. 🤣

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It is exciting to see new GPU Tech coming online but, Unless you already have an OC'd 8700K on water then the best bang for the buck right now is one 0f the new 97-9900K CPU's and gear. Could be different if your into VR and other games that work different than Flight Sim's. It is hard to think that the new 20xx's GPUs will add very much to P3D over say a 1080TI. Depending on price maybe a 2070 or 2070TI will make more sense early next year just for a bit of future proofing against P3D V5. 

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I wouldn't be inclined to want to future proof against P3D V5. I'd be willing to hazard a beat that V5 will run better on current hardware than V4 does

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