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How to get the correct Departure Runway ?

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Hi all,

I would like to find out how can i find the correct departure runway? Allow me to elaborate. I am using PFPX and basing on the weather, it shows 02C departing on PFPX but on the simulator, it gives a different runway like 20R. How can sync both so i get the same runway and arrival for both PFPX and the simulator (P3D). 

Thank you in advance.

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Dushantha Baduge

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You basically can't.... what the sim chooses for you is not always straightforward, especially with very low winds.

So you have to be a little bit flexible there. Either you check before what is used in the simulator right now and set that runway in PFPX manually or you ignore what the simulator is assigning you...

I hope there will be an easy software where you can choose what runway is used in the simulator.


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2 minutes ago, officercrockey said:

You basically can't.... what the sim chooses for you is not always straightforward, especially with very low winds.

So you have to be a little bit flexible there. Either you check before what is used in the simulator right now and set that runway in PFPX manually or you ignore what the simulator is assigning you...

I hope there will be an easy software where you can choose what runway is used in the simulator.

Thank you for your reply. Yes i agree that a simple software should exist. Oh Well... till then, be flexible (LOL).

 

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I'm new to P3d, so this might not apply. I haven't enabled traffic yet to see if it works the same, but in FSX I would tune to ground and listen to what ATC was assigning to the other flights. It frequently was the "wrong" runway for the conditions, but at least I wasn't trying to taxi upstream.

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This is one of the controls that is missing in P3D and I've whined about it for a long time, an ability to control runway operations or in general any basic tools to control AI and general airport operations of this type. I find it pretty ridiculous that LM never bothered to improve this. 


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In my experience it's not a problem most of the time, in fact, I don't think I ever ran into trouble. What basically tells you what runway will be used is the wind, 320/05 and e.g. at MSP you'll land and depart west on runways 30L/R while 35 will also be available for landing. ATC will assign your runway based on this and your position. For departure, it will assign the runway which is closest to your gate but when receiving taxi clearance you can request a runway change from the ATC menu. On approach it works the same, approaching from the south your runway for landing will either be 30L (MSP again) or perhaps 35, in that case you have to see what runway you're closest to/which runway is closest to your flight plan. Of course you can still request different runways.

When planning my flight I usually ignore what PFPX says about the runways because it's often not precise either and go by winds and position of my airplane. I can't remember ever getting a runway assigned other than the one I expected to be in use. A bit of knowledge about the airports you depart out of or land at will also help, e.g. LAX obviously never really uses the 6/7 runways but the 24s/25s even when you have a (slight) tailwind (edit: P3D doesn't know this and will use the 6s/7s depending on wind direction. I edited the AFCAD for LAX with ADE to close runways 6/7 for landing and departure).

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7 hours ago, Gizmo05 said:

I would like to find out how can i find the correct departure runway

Live ATC and Real Traffic are good for this.  Used Real Traffic this morning departing ENGM. 🙂

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Also, if you are using Active Sky with real live weather and check the conditions of the departure and arrival airports, lower left corner of the screen shows active runways in use in P3D at the moment.

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Runway changes happen, it's easiest to just know how to change your departure runway and associated SID.

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and that PFPX is a planning tool, not a takeoff / landing tool like its sibling Topcat tool .... which you use when you know / decide the runway to use.

52 minutes ago, Drumcode said:

Also, if you are using Active Sky with real live weather and check the conditions of the departure and arrival airports, lower left corner of the screen shows active runways in use in P3D at the moment.

or historic weather. AS call of the active runway is sometimes different to the sims atis call and neither seem to read addon airports "accurately" (open/closed runways). both do "score" the runway to use after considering visibility, navaids for landing, length & wind & if all equal (?) will choose closest to true north.


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Hi,

What I use before programing the fmc is what  I used in FSX, works in P3D also.  Contact ATC ground and request a departure, they will give you a runway along with the route to take to it.

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You can also force the winds in active sky if it is calm or variable to stop the AI shifting between runways. I find it quite useful. That feature is called ‘force ai wind lock’ I think. 


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14 hours ago, Drumcode said:

This is one of the controls that is missing in P3D and I've whined about it for a long time, an ability to control runway operations or in general any basic tools to control AI and general airport operations of this type. I find it pretty ridiculous that LM never bothered to improve this. 

the military dont care about it.  they care about training using VR.

 

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