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7 hours ago, Ian McPhail said:

Like others, I am a little careful about MSFS 2020.  I have invested so much into LM, that I doubt I would want to spend even a portion of that dressing up the new sim.  Also where I live in Aus we have lousy internet download speeds, so I might be consigned to a lesser off-line version.  Yes, yes, I know this is all speculation as MS extends its brilliant wait and see marketing strategy, but I am feeling exhausted at the thought of new everything again.

Consequently I look forward to v4.6 or v5 whenever it or they arrive.

Unless MS really forces LM to stop supplying to users like us.  Ain't it fun.

I am continuing to add and build my payware collection for P3D regardless of what MAFS2020 brings!

 

I’ll be completely surprised if Microsoft allows completely free reign in the payware arena especially with an Xbox version coming as well!  Somehow I assume they will have some type of MS store to by all addons through that will be certified etc...

 

Anyway plan on staying w LM indefinitely!

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i also skipped FSX.  FS9 straight to P3DV4 for me.  I'm in no hurry to move on, but will move on when the time is right this time.  

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3 minutes ago, micstatic said:

but will move on when the time is right this time.  

Correct

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The more I think about FS2020 the less I’m inclined to switch to it. As I fly a 737 views of admittedly nice looking scenery will be fleeting as I climb up to high altitude. And all that scenery will in all probability be streamed with unknown fps and system requirements. All the following will be useless for some time, perhaps a very long time:-

ChasePlane, GoFlight units, PMDG737, Active Sky, ASCA, EFB, FSUIPC, AIG Ai, LNM, GSX, Pollypot software, Radar Contact and a multitude of airports around the world.

The only possibility of me entertaining it is if FSL do a Concorde for that sim only but even then I would have to think long and hard.

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P3Dv4 has at least another year (probably 2 years) left on my hard drive.
I will continue to enjoy the 'incremental' improvements that LM have given us, should the rumoured v4.6 come to fruition. We might be surprised by what LM brings to the table for the next point release, as the arrival of PBR was quite unexpected for a point release. That, the photoreal ground tile size and scenery draw distance increases in v4.4 being the most notable improvements for me.

The leap from FS9 to P3D v4.0 was already huge, let alone compared to v4.5 now.
However, it *appears* that a leap of similar proportions exists between P3D and MSFS.
I will very likely move across to the new sim to enjoy the photo scenery and improved flight dynamics as I find myself tiring of the world of obvious repeating landclass textures and acceptable, rather than good performance.

Orbx's TrueEarth was supposed to be the game changer so that I could spend a lot more time flying low and slow VFR.
From the MS teaser videos, TE is now last year's prom date and I have found my new crush.

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13 minutes ago, F737NG said:

From the MS teaser videos, TE is now last year's prom date and I have found my new crush.

LOL....I would keep that phone number for last years prom date for a while if I were you!!

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ORBx TrueEarth GB will still be a game changer for me in P3D. Even with all of those 3DM files disabled, TrueEarth GB South is still a massive improvement over the Horizon photoscenery that has (admittedly) served me well over the past decade. I really can't wait for GB Central and GB North to be released for P3D. I just hope that they manage to source higher resolution terrain mesh for Scotland than they did for the XPlane version of TrueEarth GB North. The problem with releasing a product with 30 metre resolution mesh is that all of the objects (including custom landmarks) will be positioned to fit in that mesh.....and 30 metres is nowhere near good enough for a country like Scotland.

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new beta for AS4 has been released with 4.5 compatibility updates on change log?  , perhaps a sign that 4.6 is near 

With all the excitement that m$ have created, I have to say my interest in P3d is in decline 

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2 minutes ago, kand said:

With all the excitement that m$ have created, I have to say my interest in P3d is in decline 

I have to say, mine too.  Sadly.  Although, no time to fly lately anyway

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Well...MSFS beta isn't just started yet and has no planned timeframe, and some folks have already lose interest.

Too funny. 

 

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On 9/18/2019 at 1:55 PM, Christopher Low said:

ORBx TrueEarth GB will still be a game changer for me in P3D. Even with all of those 3DM files disabled, TrueEarth GB South is still a massive improvement over the Horizon photoscenery that has (admittedly) served me well over the past decade. I really can't wait for GB Central and GB North to be released for P3D. I just hope that they manage to source higher resolution terrain mesh for Scotland than they did for the XPlane version of TrueEarth GB North. The problem with releasing a product with 30 metre resolution mesh is that all of the objects (including custom landmarks) will be positioned to fit in that mesh.....and 30 metres is nowhere near good enough for a country like Scotland.

Whereas I have no wish to spoil your fun confining your interests to the UK with ORBX True Earth GB, it has to be said that the land mass of the UK is small by comparison with Europe let alone the rest of the world. It seems prohibitively impossible to do justice to the whole planet with the same technology that we, let's face it, occasionally struggle with today even with the best efforts of ORBX. We need radical change in the way that the world is portrayed and delivered to the sim which MSFS may well deliver for us all. Whether or not LM will rise to the challenge with a worthy contender to Microsoft's offering remains to be seen. But as we are going at the moment, we are only really being delighted by a well-produced experience of a mere fraction of the Earth's scenery which, continuing at the present rate of development and with the current ESP-based software, could take many years to cover more significant landmasses than we are currently experiencing (I for one think ORBX's Honolulu is brilliant, but let's face it Hawaii is but a dot on the planet compared with Europe, Asia, Africa and the Americas). 

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For me, I like to fly commercial style aircraft into and out of places I have visited.

While Asian Terrain and landclass has been poorly represented in FSX and P3dv4 by 3rd party developers, maybe this will change with MS2020 ??

If this is something that will be available in greater detail, and the built in aircraft offer in depth systems (or alternative P3dV4.x aircraft can be ported relatively cheaply), then I for one will be considering this as a purchase.

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Seems to me...  LM releases P3D updates every May and November timeframe.  4.6 coming in November, perhaps?

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6 hours ago, jordanal said:

Seems to me...  LM releases P3D updates every May and November timeframe.  4.6 coming in November, perhaps?

So you think they will go from 4.5 straight to 4.8 ? ...  🤨

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14 hours ago, kand said:

new beta for AS4 has been released with 4.5 compatibility updates on change log?  , perhaps a sign that 4.6 is near 

??? That beta has been out for months. How does HiFi's 4.5 update indicate 4.6 is near ?

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1 hour ago, ZKOKQ said:

 

??? That beta has been out for months. How does HiFi's 4.5 update indicate 4.6 is near ?

The newest one is 7205 which was released two days ago.

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1 hour ago, ZKOKQ said:

 

??? That beta has been out for months. How does HiFi's 4.5 update indicate 4.6 is near ?

Released 23/09/19, I guess the point I am making is why would the latest beta add 4.5 compatibility updates when AS4 has been compatible with 4.5 since at or around release. 

 

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Understood, thanks guys. I thought it was the previous one. My bad lol

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3 minutes ago, simbol said:

Hi Guys..

The wait is over... P3D 4.5 HF2 is out.. https://prepar3d.com/news/2019/09/115750/

Enjoy..

S.

Simbol: Das this mean now all 3.Party Addons must be updated (Chaseplane, AS16, ASP4, GSX, PMDG, QW, REX EF, REX SF, etc.? Or as it is a hotfix within the Version 4."5" it will not be necessary?

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3 minutes ago, mpo910 said:

Simbol: Das this mean now all 3.Party Addons must be updated (Chaseplane, AS16, ASP4, GSX, PMDG, QW, REX EF, REX SF, etc.? Or as it is a hotfix within the Version 4."5" it will not be necessary?

Any add-on that stick to P3D SDK procedures would not need to be updated as it will work without problems. I posted a list on my private forums for example.

However there are some add-on's that use custom techniques to implement features that go beyond current P3D SDK functionality or for other reasons, and such add-ons will need to be updated. Some examples are GTN complete from F1, EZDOK, some Hi-Fi products, etc.

However many of these developer monitor closely and stay in touch with LM developers and will be producing updates rather quickly.

Kind Regards,
Simbol

 

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Is there anything in this HF that makes it worth updating??? just read the release notes and nothing really stands out for me

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5 minutes ago, kand said:

Is there anything in this HF that makes it worth updating??? just read the release notes and nothing really stands out for me

Yes.. lots of things! for once AFCAD files can now be configured for correct runways configurations... this is going to be big with airport add-on's!!

Another issue resolved is related to land class objects, which would allow ORBX 4.0 control panel to work correctly :wink:.

Many developers have been waiting for this HF2 in order to address problems with their add-on's or to include new features, so you can expect having 4.5 HF2 installed in order to run all well know add-on's very shortly.. 

S.

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I find the whole update thing confusing.  I'm pretty much brand new to P3d.  Never had a hotfix before.  Do I just do the client?

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26 minutes ago, mpo910 said:

Simbol: Das this mean now all 3.Party Addons must be updated (Chaseplane, AS16, ASP4, GSX, PMDG, QW, REX EF, REX SF, etc.? Or as it is a hotfix within the Version 4."5" it will not be necessary?

GSX was never dependent from the exact simulator build in P3D.

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