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2020 Still using anti-virus software

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Hey Guys.  I've had some issues last few months related to Norton Internet Security.  First a few months ago I had to reinstall the FSL A320.  Despite having excluded the proper directories in norton.  Then this week out of know where, it decided to kill AIG.  I've had that excluded also.  It's almost like Norton has got to the point where it ignores the parameters I attempt to set aroudn it.  While at the same time I've read numerous reports online where people say you don't even need to run a 3rd party anti-virus program anymore.  What do you guys do?

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

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I use Avast Antivirus (the free version), and it seems to work fine. I was never a big fan of Norton antivirus in the past, as I found it to be far too intrusive.

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

UK2000 Beta Tester

I'm using the M$ one. Don't have any issues, but having said that. I exclude the hard-drive that Prepa3d is installed on.

 

Jude Bradley
Beech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?
ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry.

X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020  🙂

System specs: Windows 11  Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF  Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM  1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12,  1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020

Since I built this Windows 10 system in the fall of 2015 I have used nothing other than the Windows 10-included Defender (no cost, constantly updated) and Malware Bytes.  Perfect!  No need to purchase or use cumbersome, system draining 3rd party AV any longer.  I have seen numerous posts over the past two or three years similar to your post, and believe the strongest recommendations are just that.  Defender and Malware Bytes.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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thanks guys.  I was expecting to hear this.  My concern is that I will delete Norton.  Then windows defender will activate and it will then start blocking everything since it's been dormant.  

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

If you don't mind having a couple of OS installs what works exceedingly well is to keep your simulator and its various add-ons on one disk w/ its own OS.  Nowadays, since high performing SSD's arrived, there is little to no need to put OS and sim on separate drives.  Plus, it makes for easy complete system restores or cloned backups (on old HDD's which is what I've done) which I have done a few time when something poorly repairable happened to the install.  This is what I've done for 20y now and I never have AV/malware software installed on my OS/sim boot, nor any other type of software that would be vulnerable, for example MS Office.  When I download any new software including updates to sim/add-ons I boot to another drive where other software, games, and AV/malware software exists, scan the item for problems, then copy it on my OS/sim disk for install next boot in.  Have yet to ever have any virus/malware in my simulation install.

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Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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Thanks Noel.  That might be a little too much for me.  But I'm likely to go ahead and ditch Norton and use W. Def

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

2 hours ago, fppilot said:

Since I built this Windows 10 system in the fall of 2015 I have used nothing other than the Windows 10-included Defender (no cost, constantly updated) and Malware Bytes.

Is that the free or paid version of MB? Im thinking of switching to the same setup and im unsure what version to get.

I’m using bitdefender , mainly because my wife’s work has a program where we could get the cost reimbursed on our home computer.  There are a few functions I turned off (safe file protection is one) because it never actually reported catching anything malicious and was constantly being a pain in the butt stopping legitimate things from working.

Not sure if I’ll renew when my one year license is up or just go back to windows defender....from what I hear it ranks quite well, particularly for its “cost”.

Dave

Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU

1 hour ago, micstatic said:

Thanks Noel.  That might be a little too much for me.  But I'm likely to go ahead and ditch Norton and use W. Def

Sure, you might consider it when you do your next build.   It's nice to have an uber clean install for your flight sim with virtually no risk of any interference by malware or even unnecessary services running for other purposes on your sim OS' install. 

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

29 minutes ago, SoJourned said:

Is that the free or paid version of MB? Im thinking of switching to the same setup and im unsure what version to get.

Yes.  Malware Bytes Premium.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

I use  a combination of Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium.  No issues with either (or with the two together).  Hope this helps.


Alan Ampolsk

"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"
-- Saint-Exupery

11 hours ago, micstatic said:

Hey Guys.  I've had some issues last few months related to Norton Internet Security.  First a few months ago I had to reinstall the FSL A320.  Despite having excluded the proper directories in norton.  Then this week out of know where, it decided to kill AIG.  I've had that excluded also.  It's almost like Norton has got to the point where it ignores the parameters I attempt to set aroudn it.  While at the same time I've read numerous reports online where people say you don't even need to run a 3rd party anti-virus program anymore.  What do you guys do?

I would rather have three root canals with no Novocaine than use Norton AV. The only  thing it is good at is slowing your PC down. 

 

 

 

So far over the last few years have had paid versions of the following Internet Security Packages: Avast, Avira, Karspersky and Bit-Defender. Had nothing but problems with all of them blocking and sometimes even deleting perfectly clean exe files, blocking access to data, etc. Have ended up disabling the AV altogether when flying and noticed the Sim performed much better. Now considering malware bytes Pro and Windows Defender. If you are having issues disable the AV completely prior to flying.

 

Joaquin Blanco

Intel Core i9-9900K at 5Ghz, Corsair Hydro H100i RGB PLATINUM CPU cooler, Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E,Motherboard, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6, G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory, 500GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS M.2 PCIe,2TB Samsung 860 QVO Solid State Drive, 2TB, 2 x Samsung 860 Evo 2TB, 1 x 1TB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair RM650x 80 PLUS Gold 650W PSU.

 

 

 

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