To whom is experiencing countless issues.

I have been one of the owners of P3D v3 since 2017 and p3d v4 since 2018, I was satisfied with what Lockheed Martin has to offer in beginning with this simulator, but it has all been alot of trial and error as time went on, e.g. 1. I would encounter CTD with ntdll and kernelbase according to the Event Viewer, 2. Loads default flight when ever I hit any button of the scenario window like "Change Aircraft", "Options" or any other even though I did not hit the "Start Flight" button, 3. When I edited the CFG file for P3D I turned off scenario window "SHOW_SCENARIO_WINDOW=0" I allowed it to start and load the default flight and hopefully I would be able to change airport and aircraft that way instead, I managed to change airport  without issues via the overhead menu in the sim but changing aircraft did not go well, when I try to change the aircraft from the F22 to a another default aircraft or 3rd party addon and selecting that aircraft by hitting "OK" it goes back to the sim as normal but the aircraft is still the F22 and also the sim would not respond to my mouse inputs, the sim did not freeze or crash it's still running but I cannot end the sim, change aircraft or select any of the features in the overhead menu it makes a windows sound which is the access denied sound, I had to end the sim via the task manager. I have went through the debugging procedure and I did it all by updating my NVIDIA GPU, deleting certain folders and files as instructed and also watching a couple of videos on Youtube but it is not making a difference or improvments whatsoever. 😠

I am getting tired of it, the simulator setup is too complicated, disorganising and frustating, all the time there are mostly problems and never getting enough time in flying. I expected alot better from Lockheed Martin, but it is garbage with problems even unexplained problems. 😵

I hope this message makes sense and I hope answers can be given by any of you simmers out there if possible.

This is the best I can do to explain the nightmare.

Thanks

My Rig:

i7 4820K 4.5GHz

EVGA GTX970 4GB

2x 8GB RAM

1TB SSD with sim installed on it

There's another sim out there pretty simple and fluid. Try Aerofly FS 2. You won't need to go through a complicated setup compared to P3D.

Good luck.

Cheers, Ed

When you are having that many problems a good start would be to reinstall the operating system. Then a fresh install of the SIM of your choice. Many of us myself included have tons of add-on's and I have zero problems with any of it. Time consuming to setup, sure. But rewarding? Yes.

edpatino

Thank you kindly for your swift reply, I also own Aerofly FS2 and I would say it is good and I like it but it is limited. Aerofly FS2 is not same as P3D with commerical Flight from here to there.

How would you feel about X-Plane 11?

I have in fact recently upgrade my Windows from 7 to 10 last week, I know windows 10 is not the culprit because p3d v4 is compatible to run on Win 10.

I was hoping for more answers regarding P3D issues I have stated.

I do appreciate the time for you reply to me.

Thanks again

What is so complicated about setting up P3D? Just uninstall your current installation and run an installer for new one. Easy as that. And perhaps manually delete those couple of folders that might have been left behind from uninstalling.

Edited March 30, 20206 yr by Evros

I started with a clean slate. Old machine, everything was wiped. The sim has never looked or felt as good as this; and I have a ton of extras that, according to conventional wisdom, would bring the system to its knees. Hasn't happened.

I can wholeheartedly recommend starting from scratch and paying close attention to installing whatever add-ons you have. Don't rush and install everything at once. Install one, test and then go on to the next. Don't mess with tweaks. A clean and streamlined OS is a must.

Cheers!

5 hours ago, CaptainConnor94 said:

I was hoping for more answers regarding P3D issues I have stated.

 

Quoting from your first post:

"When I edited the CFG file for P3D..."

That is a no-no IMHO... especially if you are having problems.  

Certainly your experience with P3D is not typical. If other simulators, games and programs run reliably on your system, I would at least try uninstalling P3D, delete any associated folders or files that are left over, then reinstall P3D and see how it goes. You might also want to first re-download P3D from LM in case your original download was corrupted for some odd reason.

Al

Edited March 31, 20206 yr by ark

Cptain Conner94

I have to agree with you to a certain extent.

I recently went to a new OS (Win10) install on a reformatted 1TB NVMe drive and followed that up with a new download and install of P3Dv4.5 on a newly re-formatted SSD (256GB)

Since then I have spent more time reinstalling my payware and freeware add-ons (testing each before moving on to the next add-on. I have to say that I have spent far more time testing, tweaking and generally fixing problems that have cropped up with almost every addition to P3D. A big shout out to the AVSIM community here, who have provided extraordinary backup and assistance.

The only thing I would disagree with, is that, I believe that P3D, when it is working, is actually very much worth all the struggles I have been through. Even with the expected onslaught of the new MS product, I expect to continue with P3D and I have very high hopes for a new version of it in the future (in order to cope/compete with MS)

The only other thing I would like to mention is XPlane11.  With the new OS installation, the only thing I had to do was to create another desktop shortcut and everything was normal with no need to tweak or modify anything further. I do not know how they achieve this but it runs faultlessly most of the time for me. However, I have to say that their forum assistance does not match P3D.

Sadly, most of my problems are not with Windows or P3D.  They stem in fact, from the consistent daily and inescapable power failures and constant brownouts that we suffer here in Indonesia.I do not know of any software that could withstand those problems and not fold, at least, occasionally.

In the last two years, the financial costs have been enormous, with having to replace 3 UPS set-ups, along with 2 Motherboards, CPUs, and power supplies etc. Nothing is invulnerable LOL

I think TurboKen is on the right track. It may involve a lot of work but then again, it may save you a lot of time troubleshooting everything in sight LOL.

I sincerely wish you good luck with your endeavours

Regards

Tony

 

13 hours ago, himmelhorse said:

Cptain Conner94

I have to agree with you to a certain extent.

I recently went to a new OS (Win10) install on a reformatted 1TB NVMe drive and followed that up with a new download and install of P3Dv4.5 on a newly re-formatted SSD (256GB)

Since then I have spent more time reinstalling my payware and freeware add-ons (testing each before moving on to the next add-on. I have to say that I have spent far more time testing, tweaking and generally fixing problems that have cropped up with almost every addition to P3D. A big shout out to the AVSIM community here, who have provided extraordinary backup and assistance.

The only thing I would disagree with, is that, I believe that P3D, when it is working, is actually very much worth all the struggles I have been through. Even with the expected onslaught of the new MS product, I expect to continue with P3D and I have very high hopes for a new version of it in the future (in order to cope/compete with MS)

The only other thing I would like to mention is XPlane11.  With the new OS installation, the only thing I had to do was to create another desktop shortcut and everything was normal with no need to tweak or modify anything further. I do not know how they achieve this but it runs faultlessly most of the time for me. However, I have to say that their forum assistance does not match P3D.

Sadly, most of my problems are not with Windows or P3D.  They stem in fact, from the consistent daily and inescapable power failures and constant brownouts that we suffer here in Indonesia.I do not know of any software that could withstand those problems and not fold, at least, occasionally.

In the last two years, the financial costs have been enormous, with having to replace 3 UPS set-ups, along with 2 Motherboards, CPUs, and power supplies etc. Nothing is invulnerable LOL

I think TurboKen is on the right track. It may involve a lot of work but then again, it may save you a lot of time troubleshooting everything in sight LOL.

I sincerely wish you good luck with your endeavours

Regards

Tony

 

That is the path you have taken. Just because you choose to ruin your sim with all the addons and spend more time tinkering, doesn't mean that P3D is in any way to blame for your actions. P3D itself is a very robust, easy to install and stabile platform.

Unfortunately that is very widespread sentiment that P3D does not do what we want or behave how we want it to. But if you just take a platform for what it was designed to be, then it works just beautifully.

Just stop stuffing it full of garbage and spend your time flying.

I've had repeated problems with P3D and have had to re-install several times.  And do you know what?  It's my fault.  Re-install it cleanly, get it working, and then leave it alone.  Once you find settings that give you usable framerates and smoothness, leave them alone. Don't try edging this up and that up everytime you fly.  If you do and you run into trouble, don't try out every tweak and snake-oil performance booster you read about here, go back to your old settings.

As IT engineers used to report back after service callouts "PICNIC".  Problem In Chair Not In Computer. 

Evros,

You have just said in responding to my post:-

"That is the path you have taken. Just because you choose to ruin your sim with all the addons and spend more time tinkering, doesn't mean that P3D is in any way to blame for your actions. P3D itself is a very robust, easy to install and stabile platform."

My response included the following:-

"Sadly, most of my problems are not with Windows or P3D.  They stem in fact, from the consistent daily and inescapable power failures and constant brownouts that we suffer here in Indonesia.I do not know of any software that could withstand those problems and not fold, at least, occasionally." and, in response to your second paragraph,

"The only thing I would disagree with, is that, I believe that P3D, when it is working, is actually very much worth all the struggles I have been through."

9 hours ago, Evros said:

 

 

 

 

I have no idea where you got the idea that I am ruining my sim with all the add-ons, from.

My sum total of add-ons is about 10 payware aircraft, ORBX (Australian scenery and airports), F1 and RXP GTN750 and REX Skyforce3d,  I would have to think that this is NOT an overloaded P3D.

I am now wondering why you felt that your response to quoting me was in any way logical. I feel that it is almost irrelevant. I apologise if this response offends you, but I have to admit, that I was slightly put out with yours. All good now.

Regards

Tony

 

20 hours ago, himmelhorse said:

Evros,

You have just said in responding to my post:-

"That is the path you have taken. Just because you choose to ruin your sim with all the addons and spend more time tinkering, doesn't mean that P3D is in any way to blame for your actions. P3D itself is a very robust, easy to install and stabile platform."

My response included the following:-

"Sadly, most of my problems are not with Windows or P3D.  They stem in fact, from the consistent daily and inescapable power failures and constant brownouts that we suffer here in Indonesia.I do not know of any software that could withstand those problems and not fold, at least, occasionally." and, in response to your second paragraph,

"The only thing I would disagree with, is that, I believe that P3D, when it is working, is actually very much worth all the struggles I have been through."

I have no idea where you got the idea that I am ruining my sim with all the add-ons, from.

My sum total of add-ons is about 10 payware aircraft, ORBX (Australian scenery and airports), F1 and RXP GTN750 and REX Skyforce3d,  I would have to think that this is NOT an overloaded P3D.

I am now wondering why you felt that your response to quoting me was in any way logical. I feel that it is almost irrelevant. I apologise if this response offends you, but I have to admit, that I was slightly put out with yours. All good now.

Regards

Tony

 

Hi Tony,

I'd like to offer my apologies if my response was offensive. I do have to admit that I wen't after only a single paragraph, that being:

Quote

Since then I have spent more time reinstalling my payware and freeware add-ons (testing each before moving on to the next add-on. I have to say that I have spent far more time testing, tweaking and generally fixing problems that have cropped up with almost every addition to P3D.

 That line just made me think that you go out of your way to make sim more unstable, but as stated before, I should have focused on wider picture.

All the best

21 hours ago, himmelhorse said:

Evros,

You have just said in responding to my post:-

"That is the path you have taken. Just because you choose to ruin your sim with all the addons and spend more time tinkering, doesn't mean that P3D is in any way to blame for your actions. P3D itself is a very robust, easy to install and stabile platform."

My response included the following:-

"Sadly, most of my problems are not with Windows or P3D.  They stem in fact, from the consistent daily and inescapable power failures and constant brownouts that we suffer here in Indonesia.I do not know of any software that could withstand those problems and not fold, at least, occasionally." and, in response to your second paragraph,

"The only thing I would disagree with, is that, I believe that P3D, when it is working, is actually very much worth all the struggles I have been through."

I have no idea where you got the idea that I am ruining my sim with all the add-ons, from.

My sum total of add-ons is about 10 payware aircraft, ORBX (Australian scenery and airports), F1 and RXP GTN750 and REX Skyforce3d,  I would have to think that this is NOT an overloaded P3D.

I am now wondering why you felt that your response to quoting me was in any way logical. I feel that it is almost irrelevant. I apologise if this response offends you, but I have to admit, that I was slightly put out with yours. All good now.

Regards

Tony

 

But, I have to say, even if you had installed a multitude of addons, you need not experience the type of problem that the OP encountered. I have indeed installed perhaps a hundred addons. However, let me make one thing very clear: I have been VERY particular about installing as much as I can OUSTIDE the P3Dv4 main folder. The ONLY things I allow to install inside are basic texture replacements and payware aircraft that cannot be installed anywhere else (which includes PMDG aircraft). But indeed, ALL SCENERIES are outside and I very carefully maintain my scenery library using Lorby's addon manager.

I do believe that this care is what allows me to, overall, run a stable simulator, despite the fact that its filled to the top with addons. The only thing I notice is that starting the sim GUI takes forever 😅

Evros,

As I said mate, All good now. Thank you very much for your gracious post

Tony