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Potential (and required) Hotfix for V5

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hope they address the issues in vr: severe stuttering, clouds flashing, oversized powerline towers.

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7 hours ago, christb said:

hope they address the issues in vr: severe stuttering, clouds flashing, oversized powerline towers.

Have you tried their HF for VR? they launched one 24 hours after release.

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There is one phenomena that has occasionally happened to me in previous V4.x versions of P3D that bears a resemblance to the “invisible wall” problem. It occurs most often when flying a complex add-on airliner (like the NGX), between two airports with a significant geographical separation, such as LAX-JFK.

At the end of the flight, landing and taxi to the gate are fine. Often, I want to start a subsequent flight from the same parking position. Once I have the aircraft secured and shut down, I will load the default Mooney Bravo before saving the flight, since I don’t want to save the complex aircraft as default which can cause problems.

What sometimes happens after loading the Mooney is that once loaded, it will be floating 50 more feet in the air. It’s not a case of accidentally engaging slew mode. In fact, if I do go to slew, and raise the aircraft straight up, then slew back down until the aircraft stops descending, it will stop in exactly the same place - raised above the ground.

Now, If I go ahead and save the flight, exit and re-start the sim, as soon as the aircraft is fully loaded, it spawns 50 feet in the air, falls, and slams into the ground.

It is as if the simulator’s notion of where the surface actually is has become offset from the visual representation, at the end of a long flight, especially when using a resource intensive aircraft model and/or scenery.

The difference is that in my situation, the aircraft elevation remains synced to the visual surface upon landing and taxi, until loading a different aircraft model after parking at a gate without first exiting the sim. Only then does the offset appear.

Some similarities to the current problem in V5 perhaps? It does show that even before V5, the sim can develop a discrepancy between the visual surface and its internal model of where the surface actually is.

 

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

18 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

1. P3D early releases have often been a bit rough historically. It's not static software like FSX 10 years after release. I've already installed one hotfix, I'm sure there are more to come.

The only 2 Flight Simulators that I ever saw that were 'perfect' out of the box both had ASCII graphics.

Every other one took some time. Hehe.

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@JRBarrett that is good information.  I assume you have posted similar in LM's forum?

For my part, I think I saw the "invisible wall" bug last night, flying a default aircraft (F-35) in a vanilla, completely unmodified P3Dv5 installation.  I was flying low over a lake north of San Antonio, Texas...and hit an invisible wall.  I do have crash detection turned off, and I don't know if it would have registered as a crash or not, had I had that turned on.  I can't recall what the mesh resolution slider was set to at the time.

Rhett

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22 hours ago, newtie said:

Still cruising along nicely in 4.5 as the beta gets worked on ... :biggrin:

Yep, same same.😜

On 4/20/2020 at 11:25 AM, ErichB said:

While we are all waiting for LM to address some issues regarding DX12 (as noted by Majestic), the excessive VRAM usage and other issues related to  TrueSky implementation, I'm not sure we will see any ActiveSky , REX or PMDG until after the Hotfix has been released.  Majestic have noted that they won't release their update until such time as a Hotfix addresses the DX12 issues.

Not everyone will be, but I'm mostly grounded until then.  Currently just installing scenery and having a general look around. But even with all these issues outstanding, i'm liking what I'm seeing. 

I don't get why people have rushed to install it  knowing that it's got problems and they will be having to install the hotfix.  Why not just wait

 
 
 
 
 
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22 hours ago, newtie said:

Still cruising along nicely in 4.5 as the beta gets worked on ... :biggrin:

Best post. 

 
 
 
 
 
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15 minutes ago, fluffyflops said:

I don't get why people have rushed to install it  knowing that it's got problems and they will be having to install the hotfix.  Why not just wait

If no one uses it no one detects issues, no one fixes them, and there's no hotfix at all. I don't regret being an early bird.

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16 minutes ago, fluffyflops said:

I don't get why people have rushed to install it  knowing that it's got problems and they will be having to install the hotfix.  Why not just wait

V5 has given me superior experience in my A2A C172 / PA28 Cherokee compared to v4.5.
The lightning, ambiance and performance is just on another level which 4.5 can't even sniff at.

Do you get it now?

 

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MSFS24 | X-Plane 12 

 

Guys, to be honest, I haven´t been able to fly again my P3DV4HF3 since yesterday. I installed my fslabs and made a short EGLL-EGGP and told myself "This is it".

Since installing my P3dV5 I can´t go back, and I have hit the invisible wall like 5 times, but I know it is going to get fixed. Today I followed LM instructions fly Low to High altitude airports and so far 3 perfect landings (KIAH-KDFW, KIAH-KCLT and EKCH-ESSA)

 

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MSFS 2020 and 2024

19 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

V5 has given me superior experience in my A2A C172 / PA28 Cherokee compared to v4.5.
The lightning, ambiance and performance is just on another level which 4.5 can't even sniff at.

Do you get it now?

 

No there's a 30 page topic of people that has issues.   30 pages..... 

In a months time when the hotfix is out there will be 30 pages of 'Do I just update the client'.  Etc etc. 

Just wait.  Blimey 

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28 minutes ago, pmb said:

If no one uses it no one detects issues, no one fixes them, and there's no hotfix at all. I don't regret being an early bird.

Kind regards, Michael

You might of thought they would of tested it before they released it.  They did a pretty good job with 4.0 and 4.1 then it went haywire. 

I'm itching to install but until that hotfix is forthcoming I'm not going anywhere near it makes no sense 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, fluffyflops said:

No there's a 30 page topic of people that has issues.   30 pages.....

I still enjoy V5 immensely, and many of us do.  I wont go back to 4,5, the leap is that great.

EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress
MSFS24 | X-Plane 12 

 

31 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

V5 has given me superior experience in my A2A C172 / PA28 Cherokee compared to v4.5.
The lightning, ambiance and performance is just on another level which 4.5 can't even sniff at.

Do you get it now?

 

No post I've read has said anything contrary.

The problem is that it's not working for a truckload of people.

Even ORBX has said V5 has problems.

Do you get it now?

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