5 hours ago, Sir Blackbird said:

Thanks @Chock for the great explanation! I think that for now I will try the q400 and get the FSL a320 later on If decide that P3D is really better for me. I did consider the Aerosoft but as you said it is probably better to getting 1 good product instead of many mediocre  ones. 

There is no doubt that the FSL offers the best replica of the real world A320 series. But it really depends on what type of experiences you like to have when simming. If you haven't already, you might want to watch some high quality recent full flight videos of the various aircraft....and determine what specifically you want to accomplish in these planes.

• Here's a full flight in the Aerosoft A319 in v5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwfntUYs3FU
  • The full package of A318-A321 is currently available for $67 US: https://www.pcaviator.com/store/home.php?cat=1210
  • Individual model packages are available for $50 US (about 1/3 the price of the FSL)
• Here's a full flight in the Aerosoft A330 in v5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LVJiFUZkYQ
  • The A330 is available at the same site for $60 US
• Here's a full flight in the PMDG 737 NGXu in v5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWxhfTKi4LI
• Here's a departure and arrival in the FSL A320: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOZoIcS0SR8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOZoIcS0SR8
• Here's a flight in the Maddog X in v5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2HekGtU848
• Here's a departure and arrival in the QW 787 in v5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKsR1pbp47M and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CzHKn36Omc

It is a stretch in my view to categorize the current iteration of any of the Aerosoft busses - or any of the products discussed in this thread - as mediocre. The QW757 - that's a mediocre product (with a $20 price tag to match). Indeed the AS A330 and the Maddog X are probably the standard setters with respect to PBR cockpit quality. They are both visually stunning. Every plane discussed here will be a great experience in P3D, so it comes down to personal choice. Watch the videos and see which one gets you the most excited, then go click the buy button and get to flying! 👍

 

 

22 hours ago, w6kd said:

Oh no, PMDG are not the most expensive of all--that'd be the FSL Scarebus.  The PMDG 737 base version (800/900/900ER) is $100, and the FSL A320 is $140. 

The full series for both is even more of a disparity--the PMDG 737-800/900 plus the 600/700 extension is $125, the FSL A319/320/321 combination comes in for double that at $250. 

Uhm, ok, so there's another combo offering that is even crazy more expensive, still then, second most expensive, and still not a mid Price aircraft by a long shot...

On 7/2/2020 at 5:59 AM, thepilot said:

I'm torn between the Q400 and the TFDi 717. In fact I'm glad to possess both and I fly and enjoy them equally much. Perhaps it comes down to if you prefer turboprobs or jets. The Dash has the better system representation, but then again, there is not too much automation on this aircraft in the first place – also meaning there is more work for you to do. Which can be a good thing, or not.

Unfortunately the Majestic is not updated for v5 yet, although it does work fine and the TFDI 717 is definately not ready for a v5 release yet although it says it's been updated. Maddog all the way, works perfect and very, very detailed.

2 minutes ago, Daytona125 said:

Unfortunately the Majestic is not updated for v5 yet, although it does work fine and the TFDI 717 is definately not ready for a v5 release yet although it says it's been updated. Maddog all the way, works perfect and very, very detailed.

That's one of the reasons I'm still on V4.5 at the moment. Now that V5 HF2 is out, I hope and anticipate it won't take long for them to be become fully compatible.

The Dash8 works fine in P3D v5. I haven't encounter any major issue.  The maddog X has become my favorite airplane the minute I started to fly her. 

Yes, the Maddog is nice but its even more expensive than the PMDG. I will hopefully get the Q400 today and write what I think about it.

I am torn between the QW 787 and Q400. I just love the way the 787 looks but from what I've heard the Q400 is more realisitic....

Does the 787 FMC have Holds, airways and directs? 

Edited July 4, 20205 yr by Sir Blackbird

Coolsky DC-9 - ~US$55 (you get some MD-80s thrown in as well, but they're dated, so I don't use them).  No magenta line in sight.

Quality Wings Avro RJ/BAE146 - ~US$20.  Couple of quirks you need to manage, but for $20...

Yep, Q400 is a great plane.  I don't have the 787, but can imagine it takes a lot less 'flying' than the Q400.  Where's the fun in that?

All have Australian liveries.  🙂

Sadly, the J41 hasn't made it to the top of the pile yet, otherwise that would be on here too.

 

Post script... I don't have it, only for the sake of plenty to fly already... TFDi B717?

Edited July 4, 20205 yr by Mickel

6 hours ago, Sir Blackbird said:

I am torn between the QW 787 and Q400. I just love the way the 787 looks but from what I've heard the Q400 is more realisitic....

Does the 787 FMC have Holds, airways and directs? 

Quit flip flopping and make the choice: Q400 then go fly instead of worrying about which add on is better.

20 hours ago, Sir Blackbird said:

I am torn between the QW 787 and Q400. I just love the way the 787 looks but from what I've heard the Q400 is more realisitic....

Does the 787 FMC have Holds, airways and directs? 

I bought the QW 787 and promptly returned it as I'm spoiled by PMDG NGXu and Majestic Q400 and didn't care for what I was seeing w/ QW 787.  If PMDG came out w/ a 787 I'd likely jump on it.  One very cool factor re the Q400 is that is ultra-easy on demand on both CPU and GPU, so you can do regional flights into very complex terminals and fare quite well even on less than sterling hardware.  I use four planes, all along w/ FSCaptain:  PMDG 777, 737 NGUx, Maj Q400 Pro and the wonderful Carenado Phenom 300 along w/ F1 GTN750 (thanks Bert Pieke).   Be prepared if you don't use pedals you will need to use a hardware tiller axis for the NGUx for ground steeting, and for future releases of PMDG's updated Boeing planes.  

The one thing that seems to really kill the 787 for me is the way the altitude and speed tickers have very low FPS compared to what I'm seeing outside the airplane.  It's a little thing, but one that annoys me greatly.  

21 hours ago, Sir Blackbird said:

I am torn between the QW 787 and Q400. I just love the way the 787 looks but from what I've heard the Q400 is more realisitic....

In that case I would say 100% Q400.  I have both but I find the Q400 gets much more flight time from me...it's a wonderful addon that's worth much more than what it costs.

16 hours ago, Mickel said:

don't have it, only for the sake of plenty to fly already... TFDi B717?

It’s on sale for $45 right now. Can’t go wrong. 

1 hour ago, Greggy_D said:

It’s on sale for $45 right now. Can’t go wrong. 

Yep, picked it up after I posted that.  🙂  Now all I need is for their website to let me in so I can download liveries...  😣  In the meantime, I'm going to go fly its big sister to St Maartin.

The NGXu is a safe bet. You can’t go seriously wrong with it. 
 

The Q400 is the best plane I rarely fly. It’s really great, the FMC is very different and a bit weird it you’re not used to it. You either love it or you don’t. I can’t even decide if I do. But it really is great. 
 

The FSLabs is out of this world with GSX Level 2 when it comes to immersion. The only plane that comes close is the Mad Dog but that’s a very different style. 
i haven’t regretted any euro I spent on the FSLabs. 
 

Don’t get the 787 or the A330. Both are a significant step below the fidelity of these addons. 
 

The first four I mentioned are better than their X-Plane equivalents  which i own as well. Nothing in XP really comes close to the FSLabs or the Mad dog. 

Edited July 5, 20205 yr by flycln