I'am excited it's coming......

14 minutes ago, bonchie said:

The update quote they used is a positive one from Avsim, but the sentiment they are referencing is an ongoing argument in the alpha forums.

As I've said before, no one should read into my words that the sim is bad. 

Thanks Bonchie.  I am not in the alpha but what you say is close to my understanding after doing some cross-checking on several sources these days. A rather good and innovative sim with still some annoying flaws that I personally understand being mostly related to aircraft modeling (trees is a ongoing forum joke here not to be taken too seriously). 

 

8 minutes ago, mjw25 said:

I'am excited it's coming......

Please, we have children here 🤣 !

There are a lot of very important issues that remain on the wish list, such as playable ATC (so what they've shown us in some videos isn't playable?), AI Traffic, Seasons, and Helicopters.  I doubt that they'll be able to resolve or accomplish those in the next 3 weeks or so.

Basically, what you'll be purchasing on August 18 is an open Beta.

Regarding the scenery, although what I've seen so far is extremely impressive, I remain skeptical that the majority of the Earth will look like what the MSFS 2020 marketing folks have shown us so far.  I really hope I'm wrong here.

I remain cautiously optimistic, but will be happy to sit this one out until all the important features have been added and bugs fixed.

Dave

1 hour ago, bonchie said:

I’m a CPL/IR. Getting my CFI now.

Same! How far out for your CFI? (nevermind...I should have kept reading) I'm looking at mid-September with all the delays we've had thanks to Covid. Looking forward to teaching, not looking forward to the checkride.

I know a number of experienced pilots were part of the alpha, including myself. I'll just say that I think the goals for the general alpha tester were not necessarily in line with what I lot of participants thought it would be. Looking back, I understand why. With the sheer number of people involved, the amount of noise generated had the potential to be deafening. It is understandable that the development team was isolated from that noise. At this point there is still enough uncertainty that honestly have no idea what this product is going to look like on release day. I do know that there is a great foundation in place and I too look forward to watching it mature.

 

Edited July 24, 20205 yr by snglecoil

1 minute ago, dave2013 said:

I remain skeptical that the majority of the Earth will look like what the MSFS 2020 marketing folks have shown us so far.  I really hope I'm wrong here.

Remember they use bing maps for the imagery, so just load that up if want a preview of the quality. Though it’s also possible they have access to imagery not in Bing Maps yet.

11 minutes ago, dave2013 said:

There are a lot of very important issues that remain on the wish list, such as playable ATC (so what they've shown us in some videos isn't playable?), AI Traffic, Seasons, and Helicopters.  I doubt that they'll be able to resolve or accomplish those in the next 3 weeks or so.

Basically, what you'll be purchasing on August 18 is an open Beta.

Regarding the scenery, although what I've seen so far is extremely impressive, I remain skeptical that the majority of the Earth will look like what the MSFS 2020 marketing folks have shown us so far.  I really hope I'm wrong here.

I remain cautiously optimistic, but will be happy to sit this one out until all the important features have been added and bugs fixed.

Dave

You want to know what any place will look like? Load up the Windows Map app and see. Now, simply imagine autogen and trees placed over the footprints of the buildings and forests on the ortho. That's what it will look like (but color corrected, better lighting, etc.).

There's no mysteries here. If a place in the world has awful ortho quality, it's not gonna look great.

Edited July 24, 20205 yr by bonchie

56 minutes ago, bonchie said:

I took the writtens last week. First flight with my instructor is Saturday. There's just no work right now as a CPL with the virus and I've got pretty much an immediate opportunity to instruct if I get the cert.

I got my 1500 hours doing instruction and about 200 doing flight watch out in the sfo Bay area. Instructing is the way to go. It's efficient and you do learn a ton more teaching. 

I have no idea what your future aviation plans are but if you plan on doing airlines or 135, I'd say go for your CFII. When I was doing IOE before covid, I could immidiately notice which new hires were CFIIs and who weren't, no matter if the only instructed for a small amount of time. 

1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

If you mean the flight model architecture, yes it will take some time to stabilize it. But remember, the turbo engine management could never be really improved within the ESP. Sometimes tweaking is not enough if the flaw is  « genetic ». So the jury is still open. Cautious confidence.

 

From what I've seen at the Aerodynamic episode, I trust ASOBO to have developed a flight model sophisticated enough to allow such modification. But I guess you have to be cautious not to break other stuff when turning a knob.

2 minutes ago, tweekz said:

 

From what I've seen at the Aerodynamic episode, I trust ASOBO to have developed a flight model sophisticated enough to allow such modification. But I guess you have to be cautious not to break other stuff when turning a knob.

This episode as the other trailers showed us what they were aiming to more than what they had already implemented. 

Edited July 24, 20205 yr by Dominique_K

There are a lot of real world pilots in the Alpha.  They seem to be less critical of the flight model than the simmers.

Hook

4 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

I leave your  focus to  be wherever you want to put it . Thank you for granting others the same 😄. Nobody "should" put ihis focus where he is told to.

For the record, my remark was meant as a general comment, not trying to tell others what to think. I wouldn't stand a chance accomplishing that anyway with all the stubbornness floating around here 😄

18 minutes ago, snglecoil said:

 

I know a number of experienced pilots were part of the alpha, including myself. I'll just say that I think the goals for the general alpha tester were not necessarily in line with what I lot of participants thought it would be. Looking back, I understand why. With the sheer number of people involved, the amount of noise generated had the potential to be deafening. It is understandable that the development team was isolated from that noise. At this point there is still enough uncertainty that honestly have no idea what this product is going to look like on release day. I do know that there is a great foundation in place and I too look forward to watching it mature.

 

Thank you Chris, very interesting. It gets more obvious by the day from what I read, that server telemetry was the primary goal of the alpha. I hope that the ideas and criticisms we brought here at Avsim and more importantly the contributions of the "good" alpha testers also were useful to help the Asobo team, a really nice bunch of guys. We'll know that soon enough at the big unpacking party starting on the 18th at a forum near you. 

3 minutes ago, LHookins said:

There are a lot of real world pilots in the Alpha.  They seem to be less critical of the flight model than the simmers.

Hook

 Larry, let me make a paradox. Real pilots don't think, in their heart, that a sim can reflect the true experience of flight. They are right and then more forgiving . The good simmers know that but look for everything that could make the pilots wrong 😉.  Both the pilot and the simmer are right in their own way.

This reminds me of the old IL2 Sturmovik forums where the arguments about flight model were legend and eternal. Not one of them of course had ever flown a warbird. Hubris can be a funny thing to watch.

17 minutes ago, LHookins said:

There are a lot of real world pilots in the Alpha.  They seem to be less critical of the flight model than the simmers.

Hook

This is 100% true lol...

Edited July 24, 20205 yr by bonchie