I just saw benchmark results and those left me disappointed.

[HiFlyer 9,359]

 

 

[LHookins 3,103]

Forgive me, but the expression on that guy's face is all the reason I need NOT to click on the link. 😄 

Someone else review the video and let us know if it is worth watching.

Hook

[ShawnG 1,823]

I'm not actually sure what I just watched to be honest.

 

Seems to be more of a short form art film where nature scenes are superimposed with screaming cowboys, and dire looking cpu and gpu percentages, and then a desktop pc blows up.  I see it as a neo-dadaist piece, against the oppression of the bourgeois state, but lacking in depth.

Edited August 3, 2020 by ShawnG

[Alvega 2,124]

33 minutes ago, LHookins said:

Forgive me, but the expression on that guy's face is all the reason I need NOT to click on the link. 😄 

Someone else review the video and let us know if it is worth watching.

Hook

 

I only lost 36 seconds of my life, but I can tell you now, it's not worth watching. (I know you will be watching it anyway, lol).

[wim123 763]

4 hours ago, Alvega said:

 

I only lost 36 seconds of my life, but I can tell you now, it's not worth watching. (I know you will be watching it anyway, lol).

The magic of clickbait, we dont want it, dont like it, but as soon as we know its existence we (most) have to watch it.

[steffets 5]

Interesting thread. I just got me a new PC (10900K, 2080Ti, 64GB), a reason to buy it now was being ready for MSFS. I ported over my old XP11 installation, and for the past three weeks I have been rather happy with it - I'm running Orthos, X-Europe, HDMesh, ActiveSky and like 500+ addon airports, I can leave objects and textures on full in the ToLiss. Frames are 30+, and everything looks good. I'm not even sure if I'll go get MSFS20 on the first day.

Been watching quite a bit of Beta footage (on my 2nd Monitor of course). Okay, VFR looks nothing but sweet. But, from genereting a lot of orthos I know Bing is pretty weak in places, there are holes in the HiRes coverage, whole areas covered with clouds etc. I'm excited (and a bit anxious) to see how Asobo has dealt with those.

Plus, the current default airports look ridiculous. Seems like trucks, buses and cars drive around aimlessly, even on runways (?), rendition/placement of buildings is poor, too. Higher altitiude footage, say from a tubeliner or a Kingair: the world does not look all that nice suddenly compared to the amazing eye candy of low VFR.

I'm not too worried about frame rates, though.

I don't even know why I'm writing this. Maybe I just want to say I'm just going to stay with both sims as I expect MSFS to have weaknesses, too. I put too much of my time and effort (some money, too) into my XP-11-world to just drop it - I'm happy there's something else coming my way and of course I'm going to buy it, and see, and fly.

Edited August 3, 2020 by steffets

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

36 minutes ago, steffets said:

Interesting thread. I just got me a new PC (10900K, 2080Ti, 64GB), a reason to buy it now was being ready for MSFS. I ported over my old XP11 installation, and for the past three weeks I have been rather happy with it - I'm running Orthos, X-Europe, HDMesh, ActiveSky and like 500+ addon airports, I can leave objects and textures on full in the ToLiss. Frames are 30+, and everything looks good. I'm not even sure if I'll go get MSFS20 on the first day.

Been watching quite a bit of Beta footage (on my 2nd Monitor of course). Okay, VFR looks nothing but sweet. But, from genereting a lot of orthos I know Bing is pretty weak in places, there are holes in the HiRes coverage, whole areas covered with clouds etc. I'm excited (and a bit anxious) to see how Asobo has dealt with those.

Plus, the current default airports look ridiculous. Seems like trucks, buses and cars drive around aimlessly, even on runways (?), rendition/placement of buildings is poor, too. Higher altitiude footage, say from a tubeliner or a Kingair: the world does not look all that nice suddenly compared to the amazing eye candy of low VFR.

I'm not too worried about frame rates, though.

I don't even know why I'm writing this. Maybe I just want to say I'm just going to stay with both sims as I expect MSFS to have weaknesses, too. I put too much of my time and effort (some money, too) into my XP-11-world to just drop it - I'm happy there's something else coming my way and of course I'm going to buy it, and see, and fly.

If only XP11 had some decent weather and clouds...... Thats what lets it down massively. This is where MSFS is shining. I have a similar system as yours, and yup, FPS are not a worry, what is, is stuttering. 

Edited August 3, 2020 by Ianrivaldosmith

[Oldschool61 38]

On 7/30/2020 at 9:45 AM, devgrp said:

Have you actually played the game to know what performance you will be able to get? An i7 and a 1070 should be no problem at med settings. I play on 4k at high settings and performance is good. Also remember the game is still being optimized 

Why do you need to play at 4K??

[steffets 5]

30 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

If only XP11 had some decent weather and clouds...... Thats what lets it down massively. This is where MSFS is shining. I have a similar system as yours, and yup, FPS are not a worry, what is, is stuttering. 

Yup. And they seem to have at least FSX level AI ATC. The complete absence of meaningful ATC in X-plane bothers me even more than the chunky, frame rate eating clouds. At least King Austin is willing to allow for improvements in that (weather) field. The XP11 ATC is probably going to stay crappy forever😕

[jabloomf1230 2,445]

33 minutes ago, steffets said:

The XP11 ATC is probably going to stay crappy forever😕

Pilot2ATC works very nicely with XP11 and it's a whole lot better than what's been reported for MSFS, which still relies on text messages and not Text to Speech and Speech Recognition (TTS/SR). As a feature, speech probably falls into the same category as VR and DX12. I suspect that it shouldn't take Asobo too long to incorporate a more modern speech-based interface into the default ATC, but they were probably concerned about getting the sim out the door and not degrading performance with too many additional features. Microsoft's most advanced speech packages are server-based, as opposed to what's built in to Windows 10.

[devgrp 1,233]

1 hour ago, Oldschool61 said:

Why do you need to play at 4K??

Because that's the monitor I have 

[fogboundturtle 2,708]

the ATC says the waypoint instead of spelling them now. In case you were wondering. 

[eslader 1,783]

On 7/30/2020 at 8:08 AM, andyjohnston.net said:

do they look choppy to you?

They do to me, but then I had a career in television in my past life. I can definitely see the difference between 24 and 30 (er... 29.97) fps.

On 7/30/2020 at 8:12 AM, ThomseN_inc said:

Yes, they do! Just compare a video on Youtube running at 30FPS and then the same running at 60FPS

That's not necessarily a fair comparison without knowing the technical details of the vids in question. Depending on how you change a 60fps video to a 30fps one (or vice versa) you can introduce jerkiness and other oddities. This used to be a very annoying problem trying to get programming from Europe/etc transferred to American standards -- going between PAL and NTSC can introduce all sorts of irritating visual problems. My wife had me watching some Australian show about a female detective in the '20's. I actually enjoyed the show, but the format conversion was done horribly and any time something moved on the screen, it looked absolutely terrible.

All that said, when it comes to gaming, as long as it pretty consistently hits 30fps or higher, I'm happy. While it is possible to see the difference between 30 and 60fps, it's not nearly as much of a problem as the difference between 15 and 30fps like many of us are dealing with now when we fly over somewhere intensive like NYC or O'Hare. I did slide-show flight sims back in the old Apple II days, and I don't like it when I'm yanked back to that kind of framerate. 😉

 

 

 

[steffets 5]

3 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said:

Pilot2ATC works very nicely with XP11 ...

I know. But I don't necessarily need a headset, proper phraseology and painstakingly filing flightplans - if I wanted that, I'd be on VATSIM  all the time. I'd just like to go to an airport, turn in the right frequency and listen to all the AI chattering and hear/see AI aircraft flying to proper destinations instantly - not silence and emptiness (for the latter at least there's Traffic Global). But that's all off topic, sorry..

[steffets 5]

Regarding the stutters issue:

 

Edited August 3, 2020 by steffets