August 13, 20205 yr I really think this is not far away from being the ultimate virtual tourism solution. It could open up the audience for this by orders of magnitude. I could see some people coming in and never using this to fly at all. Simply using the drone camera mode to check out their favourite locations and monuments from nearly any perspective. It could even play a role in classrooms. Amazing!
August 13, 20205 yr Just now, Virtual-Chris said: I really think this is not far away from being the ultimate virtual tourism solution. It could open up the audience for this by orders of magnitude. I could see some people coming in and never using this to fly at all. Simply using the drone camera mode to check out their favourite locations and monuments from nearly any perspective. It could even play a role in classrooms. Amazing! I also think that's one of the reasons why this even exists. In one of the earliest interviews, they talked about increasing the 'value' of Bing to both customers and consumers. Like Google made a lot of 3D applications, including VR built on Google Maps, Microsoft hasn't done much of that. Imagine building on this and creating this virtual world with Bing, you can walk around, fly around, do 'virtual tourism'. Even outside of just being a flight simulator, it has a lot of potential to show off and 'sell' Bing as an experience. [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
August 13, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, Sethos said: I also think that's one of the reasons why this even exists. In one of the earliest interviews, they talked about increasing the 'value' of Bing to both customers and consumers. Like Google made a lot of 3D applications, including VR built on Google Maps, Microsoft hasn't done much of that. Imagine building on this and creating this virtual world with Bing, you can walk around, fly around, do 'virtual tourism'. Even outside of just being a flight simulator, it has a lot of potential to show off and 'sell' Bing as an experience. Absolutely. How many of us have used Google Street View to try and get an impression of a location or whether it's worth a visit or even to find a parking lot? This has the potential to make street view ultimately look like amateur hour and provide a whole host of new uses for that data. This is may be the best thing to ever happen to Bing. I wonder if Google is paying attention? Edited August 13, 20205 yr by Virtual-Chris
August 13, 20205 yr 19 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said: I really think this is not far away from being the ultimate virtual tourism solution. In places that are handcrafted, Yes, but in places / cities with photogrammetry, it won't be possible to get a good experience. From the videos where people fly low between photogrammetry buildings, it looks anything but amazing. The buildings looks like they're "melting" and a lot of trees, cranes, monuments etc. are still just blocks. So my guess is it will be several years before we can explore Las Vegas by night and go into the casinos 🙂 Jorn Lundtoft I don't always stop and look at airplanes.........Oh wait, Yes I do. Intel I7-13700F, 32GB Fury DDR5 - 6000, Kingston 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD, Asus Geforce RTX 4070 TI 12GB, Kingston 2TB M2 NVMe SSD, Corsair 750W PCU, Windows 11
August 13, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, jlund said: In places that are handcrafted, Yes, but in places / cities with photogrammetry, it won't be possible to get a good experience. From the videos where people fly low between photogrammetry buildings, it looks anything but amazing. The buildings looks like they're "melting" and a lot of trees, cranes, monuments etc. are still just blocks. So my guess is it will be several years before we can explore Las Vegas by night and go into the casinos 🙂 I really don’t know where Bing tech and data is at and how much they are leveraging what they already have. It’s possible this is just scratching the surface... enough to make a great flight sim. I honestly had no idea the data they had could even do this. So I’m not going to assume anything about what is and isn’t possible in the short term. Of course, if what we’re discussing requires a whole new type of data collection, then yeah, you’re right, quality locations built by AI may be years off. But imagine that in addition to hand crafted airports, they started also producing hand crafted tourist attractions. It wouldn’t take long before they had more locations to explore than most people could reasonably visit in their life time.
August 13, 20205 yr They have hand crafted some tourist attractions like the Pyramids of Giza, The Eiffeltower, The Taj Mahal etc. but imagine I would like to see the little cafe on the beach I visited in Florida, that will be a long time before that happens. But it certainly have potential and it might be possible some time in the future. Photogrammetry is great, but not when you see it up close. Edited August 13, 20205 yr by jlund Jorn Lundtoft I don't always stop and look at airplanes.........Oh wait, Yes I do. Intel I7-13700F, 32GB Fury DDR5 - 6000, Kingston 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD, Asus Geforce RTX 4070 TI 12GB, Kingston 2TB M2 NVMe SSD, Corsair 750W PCU, Windows 11
August 13, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, jlund said: They have hand crafted some tourist attractions like the Pyramids of Giza, The Eiffeltower, The Taj Mahal etc. but imagine I would like to see the little cafe on the beach I visited in Florida, that will be a long time before that happens. But it certainly have potential and it might be possible some time in the future. Photogrammetry is great, but not when you see it up close. I agree, but imagine if they can do something with all the street side data they have... with some AI applied to that, we may be walking along photorealistic streets sooner than later... and it looks like they capture lidar for 3d imaging already... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/maps/streetside Edited August 13, 20205 yr by Virtual-Chris
August 13, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said: Absolutely. How many of us have used Google Street View to try and get an impression of a location or whether it's worth a visit or even to find a parking lot? This has the potential to make street view ultimately look like amateur hour and provide a whole host of new uses for that data. This is may be the best thing to ever happen to Bing. I wonder if Google is paying attention? All true, if Bing data is updated fast enough instead of being 8 years old as it is in my home town and in much of London for instance. Google seems far ahead on this as far as I can see, but I obviously haven't checked everywhere in the world! OS: Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHzRAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU: MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] SSD: Corsair Force MP510 (for OS); 2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)HDD: Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)
August 13, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, raptor1 said: What game controllers work in this Simulator with a windows 10 PC? Dont know and dont care, why would i have to use an xbox controller in a pc game, sounds stupid if you ask me. Edited August 13, 20205 yr by OHN767
August 13, 20205 yr 48 minutes ago, OHN767 said: Dont know and dont care, why would i have to use an xbox controller in a pc game, sounds stupid if you ask me. They are the best way to control the drone camera. Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
August 14, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, OHN767 said: Dont know and dont care, why would i have to use an xbox controller in a pc game, sounds stupid if you ask me. Then you really didn't need to answer the question. OS: Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHzRAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU: MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] SSD: Corsair Force MP510 (for OS); 2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)HDD: Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)
August 14, 20205 yr A welcome feature. I already use this type of camera in X-Plane 11, and more: in replay mode!
August 14, 20205 yr This technology has been around for years - maybe you didn't notice it 25 years ago I was making walk around videos for Real Estate people doing tours of a house and similar for holiday resorts - using 360degree technology then - all on a computer with 1995 technology I think Wolfenstein came out about then and other games using this technology. Edited August 14, 20205 yr by jaytee73
August 14, 20205 yr Sorry if this was mentioned previous in the thread. But at the very beginning of the video does it look like the ground is wet? Like a storm just came through? I only really notice it in the parking lot though. ASUS Prime Z490-A / i7-10700K / RTX 4080 / G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB / Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic case
August 14, 20205 yr On 8/13/2020 at 3:27 PM, Bottle said: I thought the same. Looks like it's a shrub or bush (depending on your terminology). They must have used photo references for the hand crafting, so I wouldn't have expected a tree. Nor is it that close to the runway (it's clearly behind the fence). 22 hours ago, Der Zeitgeist said: It's just a practical joke Asobo are playing on us. Tree trolling is best trolling. 😄 Again, I did not intend to engage in the unnerving tree debate. 😅 I wasn’t talking about the tree itself at all (it’s placement, whatever). I’m talking about the obvious visual artifacts it’s showing. Edited August 14, 20205 yr by badderjet
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