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Regular GTX 1080 enough to play in 4k?

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12 minutes ago, DocPadds said:

A cheap used 2080 will be in my future when people are busy upgrading.

 

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Right now a used 11 GB 2080 is to the upside of 1,200 American.  I picked up an 8 GB 1070 TI last month for just up from $300.  Still no way the price increment vs performance increment is worth that.  Especially for cross country USA GA flying while only skirting metro areas, and flying nowhere near NYC or LA.  Just perhaps tangent to Chicago, and flying into regional airports in the Indianapolis, Baltimore, St Louis, Kansas City areas as examples.  At least at this time I shudder to imagine 3000 series pricing based on what I see of used 2080 prices.  I can easily afford whatever is out there.  But I did not get to this level by jumping at such incremental cost to performance increments that that do not make sense for my use.

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Well...   this thread is just chock full of good news!!

I am in a similar boat. I have an i7 7700, 16gb ram and a gtx 1080. I was able to procure more RAM which will be here on the 18th....so thankfully ill be at 32gb then. 

I will get a new PC, gonna build it this go round, but I can make due with what I have while I save up the money to make an out right purchase.

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40 minutes ago, fppilot said:

So when 4K is mentioned, is it 3840 X 2160?  Or does it include 2560 X 1440?

4k is 3840x2160, 2560x1440 is 1440p or I guess 2k.

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48 minutes ago, captain420 said:

4k is 3840x2160, 2560x1440 is 1440p or I guess 2k.

Thanks, Capt. 
Much appreciated.

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4 hours ago, schneper32 said:

Hi, thanks for the insight 🙂 I recently upgraded my 8 year old i5 3570k to a Ryzen 5 3600, because it was bottlenecking my GTX 1070 in recent games. Could u tell me what kind of performance/settings i could expect if i want to play at 1080p? Does the GTX 1070 run just fine with everything set to high?

You and I have the same GTX 1070 graphics card, but I'm not as familiar with the performance of the CPUs you noted. I ran everything on High (one notch below Ultra) at 4K and all was well, assuming I slightly lowered the Render Scaling from 100 to 80. If you're planning to run the 1070 at standard HD (1920 x 1080), you can probably expect frame rates in the 40s at High settings, which, on this sim, will be more than adequate for a smooth, fluid experience.

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2 hours ago, captain420 said:

4k is 3840x2160, 2560x1440 is 1440p or I guess 2k.

FWIW, 2K is the same thing as full HD (1920 x 1080).

1440p denotes 1440 horizontal lines (or vertical pixels) and the "p" is for "progressive" (non-interlaced) scan...2560x1440 (16:9 aspect ratio) and 3440x1440 (21:9) are both 1440p displays.

If you multiply the width x height (in pixels) that tells you how many pixels per frame have to be rendered and post-processed (AF/AA).  At full HD it's ~2.1 megapixels per frame, at 2560x1440 it's 3.7 Mpx per frame and at 4K it's 8.3 Mpx per frame.  Those are reasonable rough order of magnitude approximations of the workload.  So 2560x1440 is a good compromise resolution if you can't quite push 4K with your system at the settings you want.

On my 55" Samsung, I can turn off hardware scaling on the TV, and if I set a resolution below 4K, it'll show up on the screen letterboxed in the center of the display at that resolution.  I used to run FSX that way before I moved it to a different machine with a smaller display.  Setting 3440x1440 letterboxed on the big screen would be my first fallback if I can't reliably hold 30 fps at 4K.

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1 hour ago, w6kd said:

On my 55" Samsung, I can turn off hardware scaling on the TV, and if I set a resolution below 4K, it'll show up on the screen letterboxed in the center of the display at that resolution.  I used to run FSX that way before I moved it to a different machine with a smaller display.  Setting 3440x1440 letterboxed on the big screen would be my first fallback if I can't reliably hold 30 fps at 4K.

What's the model of your TV? I was considering running MFS2020 in A windowed mode that would basically give me the ultrawide 32:9 (3840x1080) aspect ratio. That way I have room for other windows while I fly, such as a flight planner, browser, etc.

I hope you can set pre-defined or custom window resolutions in MFS2020, because this wasn't possible in Prepar3D. You would have to manually resize the window and there was no easy and quick way just to set the window to the exact resolution that you wanted.

 

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4 hours ago, fppilot said:

Wouldn't it be wonderful if a sim had an option for auto-adjusted settings based on system specs and thus adjusts res "on the fly" based on the area you are in and/or your altitude?  Rural vs small city vs major metro area vs low and slow vs GA cruise at 10,000 vs Hi Alt cruise and speed?

 

4 hours ago, nigelmcelwee said:

Actually, one simulation does a version of that on the Fly... IL2 Sturmovik.  It will adjust your rendering based on frame rates dipping below your target frame rate.

This! I really hoped something like that would be a feature of the new sim. Set a target frame rate and have the settings automatically be adjusted during the flight to always keep that frame rate.

4k gameplay @60fps, for those who think its not possible or worth 😅

 

 

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11 hours ago, captain420 said:

What's the model of your TV? I was considering running MFS2020 in A windowed mode that would basically give me the ultrawide 32:9 (3840x1080) aspect ratio. That way I have room for other windows while I fly, such as a flight planner, browser, etc.

I hope you can set pre-defined or custom window resolutions in MFS2020, because this wasn't possible in Prepar3D. You would have to manually resize the window and there was no easy and quick way just to set the window to the exact resolution that you wanted.

It's in my sig--a JS8500 series, coming up on 5 years old now.

What I'm describing won't work for opening other windows--I set the lower resolution in nVidia Control Panel, so the PC's entire display area is set to the lower res.  I reinstalled FSX to fly some of my cherished old titles that never made the trip to P3D (PMDG MD-11 & Jetstream 4100, TinMouse 737 etc) and 4K was too much CPU load to keep FSX running smoothly.  So when I ran FSX I set a lower resolution in the display driver and ran letterboxed (with FSX in full-screen mode) on the big display.

I've long since abandoned the thought of trying to run other programs on the same PC together with the sim.  I run utilities on a second PC, usually my previous sim PC which has been demoted to auxiliary duties.

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Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Specs i7700 1080gpu if I run at 1080p will 16g ram be enough 

thank you,Jim

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[email protected] 32GB RAM 1080TI and asus 34 rog swift pg349q monitor..can run Ultra 4k? 25/30 fps big cities ? 

tks 

João 

12 hours ago, carecajps said:

[email protected] 32GB RAM 1080TI and asus 34 rog swift pg349q monitor..can run Ultra 4k? 25/30 fps big cities ? 

tks 

João 

Thank you

thank you,Jim

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Not sure if this is the right place but has anyone seen and videos using the 5700xt. How are the AMD cards handling the game?

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