4 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

I'm a fan of MSFS and can't wait to fly the word not allowed thing.

Same here bud. I’m gonna be flying the word not allowed out of it all word not allowed day!

Another metric of probable sales is the pre-release sales on Steam. Since the appearance of MSFS on Steam, it has been a top seller. As the release date nears, it has been 'the' top seller. I was surprised by this. I guess I viewed MSFS through my narrow angle lense and didn't appreciate the appeal to a wide audience. 

Like others have noted, I bought my copy through the MS Store as I want all that money going to MS and not Gabe.

Hard drive space cleared; Orbx uninstalled; I'm ready.

10 minutes ago, kingm56 said:

MSFS is for gammers and P3D is for serious simmers.

Then the XP guy comes around and tells the P3D guy that P3D is for procedure training but XP is for serious aviation enthusiasts. Kindergarten.

Just now, RichieFly said:

Another metric of probable sales is the pre-release sales on Steam. Since the appearance of MSFS on Steam, it has been a top seller. As the release date nears, it has been 'the' top seller. I was surprised by this. I guess I viewed MSFS through my narrow angle lense and didn't appreciate the appeal to a wide audience. 

I think it's just the perfect storm of wide appeal due to spectacular graphics, the almost unknown flightsim genre for most regular gamers, and a global pandemic that keeps most people from traveling who are longing to see something new, even if it's just on a computer screen.

3 minutes ago, kingm56 said:

Don't I know it...him and Sliver9 continue to perpetuate the notion that MSFS is for gammers and P3D is for serious simmers.  Doesn't matter how much evidence that states otherwise; they're sticking to their assertions.

I'm not sure what is wrong with you, Kingm56, but Prepar3d is not licenced for entertainment use. It's not for gaming, a basic fact that has been known since November 2010. If people are using it for gaming, they're breaking the EULA. Whilst that undoubtedly happens, it's unequivocally not what the sim is designed for. 

Conversely, MSFS is specifically designed as a flight game, and contains elements that would not be included in a training simulator. The platform could conceivably be repurposed for serious aviation use in the future, but to my knowledge neither MS or Asobo have announced any such plans.

Now, I have no idea why that is relevant to this thread, but you seemed to want to make an issue out of it as though another poster and I had said something crazy, so I thought I should explain some basic concepts as you seem to have a very large chip on your shoulder about this.

Cheers!  

11 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

Projecting much? 

Projecting not at all.

I've got no problem whatsoever with someone who flies "sim X" talking about the positives and the negatives.

There's a big difference between this and trolls who post repetitive negative stuff about a sim they don't fly (ahem, again not mentioning any names).

If I wasn't planning/hoping that MSFS would be my main sim moving forward into the future, I wouldn't be posting here.

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by OzWhitey

12 minutes ago, RobotRock said:

Same here bud. I’m gonna be flying the word not allowed out of it all word not allowed day!

I'm word not allowed glad to hear that. Honestly, MSFS is going to be word not allowed good, no doubt about that.

Some people around here just need to calm the word not allowed down, and stop attacking people for things they're not even word not allowed saying. The number of word not allowed strawman arguments around here is word not allowed unbelievable!

Anyway, enjoy your new sim. Cheers!

 

Hi, 

Can someone point me in the direction of a topic that doesn’t turn into one of the following:

MSFS vs P3D vs XP

The size of trees

Casuals vs Simmers vs Serious Simmers vs Very serious simmers 

Don't call the sim MS20/MFS2020/MSFS2k20
 

Thanks

Carter

 

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by Carts85

16 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

31 minutes ago, kingm56 said:

 

I'm not sure what is wrong with you, Kingm56, but Prepar3d is not licenced for entertainment use.

Ah yes, the classic “I have a different point of view from you and therefore there must be something wrong with you!” You must be a joy to speak to!

And a few things are quite obvious: (1) likely a majority of simmers using P3D are doing so for entertainment purposes, as is nearly everyone on these boards. You can do it as realistically as possible, but unless you’re doing it specifically to go over procedures and augment flight training, you’re doing it for entertainment whether you want to admit it or not. (2) This sim can have some practical advantages to it that aren’t necessarily entertainment related, despite it not being FAA approved as a training device etc. As a student pilot in the cross country phase who hasn’t flown in months now due to COVID, this sim is a great way to practice procedural items like going through flows and checklists and not losing my currency. The VFR realism and capabilities also allow for practice in completing cross country flights with a sectional and nav log, something that is much harder to do in the other sims unless lakes and airports are your only landmarks.

Regardless, be civil. Jeez. I hope you don’t respond to disagreements like that offline...

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by FlyingInACessna

51 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

I'm not sure what is wrong with you, Kingm56, but Prepar3d is not licenced for entertainment use. It's not for gaming, a basic fact that has been known since November 2010. If people are using it for gaming, they're breaking the EULA. Whilst that undoubtedly happens, it's unequivocally not what the sim is designed for. 

Conversely, MSFS is specifically designed as a flight game, and contains elements that would not be included in a training simulator. The platform could conceivably be repurposed for serious aviation use in the future, but to my knowledge neither MS or Asobo have announced any such plans.

Now, I have no idea why that is relevant to this thread, but you seemed to want to make an issue out of it as though another poster and I had said something crazy, so I thought I should explain some basic concepts as you seem to have a very large chip on your shoulder about this.

Cheers!  

And yet LM/P3D made appearances at all the FS conventions; clearly, they knew their product was being used beyond the training aperture it was licences to operation under.  To suggest otherwise, is intellectually dishonest...and you know it.  Moreover, we're not discussing licence legalities and/or marketing apertures.  We're discussing the notion of one platform being more conductive to simming than the other.  To that point, you've implicitly stated that P3D is a pure simming platform.  I've asked you at least three times to please list the features that makes P3D a more viable simming platform than MSFS?  In short, what does default P3D have that MSFS doesn't, as it relates to pure simming?   I can certainly list you multiple SIMMING features that MSFS has that P3D does not...

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by kingm56

all true and all nice

at the end of the day is how the sim perform and we all know it very soon.

not long now to go and to put it under tests to check it all out.

41 minutes ago, kingm56 said:

I simply don't understand your assertions. 

I sorry you don't.

Just now, Carts85 said:

Hi, 

Can someone point in the direction of a topic that doesn’t turn into one of the following:

MSFS vs P3D vs XP

The size of trees

Casuals vs Simmers vs Serious Simmers vs Very serious simmers 

Don't call the sim MS20/MFS2020/MSFS2k20
 

Thanks

Carter

 

Most of the performance related threads avoid this. See: Singapore 2560x1440p GTX 1070 thread.

27 minutes ago, RobotRock said:

Thanks for the laugh!

You are quite welcome.

4 minutes ago, FlyingInACessna said:

Most of the performance related threads avoid this. See: Singapore 2560x1440p GTX 1070 thread.

Funnily enough that was my thread I’ll just stay in there lol

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by Carts85