1 hour ago, SirDan said:

Na it's to pick up the devs from the dying sims such as x-plane and others that want to come work in the next gen of Flight sims

totally agree, if someone knows how to make things work in a sim it's probably the XP devs.  🙂

2 minutes ago, FPStewy said:

if someone knows how to make things work in a sim it's probably the XP devs

Once sec checking X-plane bug list real quick , since it's been around for over a decade.... oh my lol, bug list about as long as MSFS 2020 on release day lmao

 

X-plane had it's 10+ year long run , steep aside let the new kids play with the toys for awhile.

Edited September 2, 20205 yr by SirDan

5 minutes ago, FPStewy said:

totally agree, if someone knows how to make things work in a sim it's probably the XP devs.  🙂

Oh boy we should visit .org form. It's a mirror reflection of what is going on here! People rant about many things ! Just few things in my memory: exaggerated crosswind effect, unrealistic tail dragger physics, excessive P factor ...List goes on LOL

13 minutes ago, SirDan said:

Once sec checking X-plane bug list real quick , since it's been around for over a decade.... oh my lol, bug list about as long as MSFS 2020 on release day lmao

The difference with other sims is that you can have 300+ airplanes, multiple study level aircraft, fully functioning Vatsim/IVAO ATC's, multiple fully functioning GPS's like the GNS and GTN's ect.. all with navigraph procedures, different functioning EFB's ect.... so of course you're gong to have less bugs if you don't even those features to begin with.

Don't get me wrong, FS20 is the future but it's like going to an expensive restaurant overlooking the Grand Canyon but the only have hot dogs of the menu right now and they forgot to stock mustard.

Edited September 2, 20205 yr by FPStewy

I don't look forward to it at all .... It fix close to nothing other than install issues. 

1 hour ago, Matthias1231 said:

For sensitivity issues I've been using JoystickCurves and apply a straight horizontal response curve, limiting the total deflection to 50% or less (depending on the controller and axis). Much less erratic than the built in sensitivity curve.

I'm looking forward to the patch so I can use SpadNext and attach all my panels again. 🙂  

JoystickCurves...I had forgotten about that program.  Great idea...I was planning on doing a similar thing with a flat curve to linearly scale the inputs down in FSUIPC after they got SimConnect fixed.

 

2 minutes ago, w6kd said:

got SimConnect fixed

This can't come any sooner. Looking forward to this.

1 hour ago, kerosene31 said:

The problem is that one is one too many, especially when an hour+ flight gets cut short.  I've learned about the joystick issue (plugging in a joystick during flight will often crash) but I still get them.  

 

I found that you can plug or unplug a joystick, as long as you hit the ESC button first, and ESC again to resume.

Edited September 2, 20205 yr by Bert Pieke

12 minutes ago, FPStewy said:

Don't get me wrong, FS20 is the future but it's like going to an expensive restaurant overlooking the Grand Canyon but the only have hot dogs of the menu right now and they forgot to stock mustard.

And no waiter to replace the food when you find a bug inside it

I am hoping the patch fixes my CTD issue. I can take off fine and sometimes land before I have a CTD. Most of the time I can take off, land, and taxi but as soon as I try to go to the main menu I get a CTD. 

1 hour ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

Well, for people who have been flying on vatsim for years, I dont think any of this really matters. Non-functioning winds is just wind calm, meaning you can land in any direction, so it will not be adverse to your comfort to follow atc instructions. It's not like you are gonna have gale winds from that direction 😉

 It's the newcomers that are gonna struggle the most. It will probably be a big barrier to entry until MSFS has sorted many of these things out (especially the autopilot things, like adding procedures, transitions etc flawlessly in the garmins. Right now its hit or miss whether it will stick or not, and you cant really do direct to any part of the procedure fixes. 

Cant you just imagine it now. Little Billy Pilot is trying vatsim for the first time. He has even read a little bit about it before logging in, and he has filed a flightplan. Already at Ground he gets stomped when he hears "qnh 1002" and looks at his baro settings in inches of mercury and not sure what to do. 

Of course, the solution is just to parrot back 1002, and press B to correctly set the pressure in your sim. 

I disagree with your opinion on newcomers and barriers of entry to the sim. 

If a newcomer is truly new to aviation as a whole, what they don't know or are just learning can't be a barrier to entry. 

It's like......"ignorance is bliss." So to speak.

1 minute ago, ahsmatt7 said:

I disagree with your opinion on newcomers and barriers of entry to the sim. 

If a newcomer is truly new to aviation as a whole, what they don't know or are just learning can't be a barrier to entry. 

It's like......"ignorance is bliss." So to speak.

The sim isnt a barrier. Quite the oposite. But using the sim on vatsim definately is going to be. They will tolerate newcomers, but you cant go about it willy nilly in there or someone is gonna talk to you. 

Just now, Andreas Stangenes said:

The sim isnt a barrier. Quite the oposite. But using the sim on vatsim definately is going to be. They will tolerate newcomers, but you cant go about it willy nilly in there or someone is gonna talk to you. 

Hhhmmm...I see your point. We may be saying the same thing to eventually arrive at the same conclusion but taking different routes to get there. Good stuff!

2 hours ago, Matthias1231 said:

For sensitivity issues I've been using JoystickCurves and apply a straight horizontal response curve, limiting the total deflection to 50% or less (depending on the controller and axis). Much less erratic than the built in sensitivity curve.

Thanks for mentioning this app! I did not know about it. That customizable curve is exactly what I wished to have. It is going to solve all my sensitivity issues without having to mess around with cfg files of the sim.

You should put this into the tips and tricks section.

1 hour ago, samcan said:

Not necessarily, given some of the job postings expressly mention they're for working on Flight Simulator...

I wonder if some quit over the early release and not wanting to be part of it.