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Add on developers screwed until major patches

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As much as I anticipate quality add on aircraft and airport sceneries it is important to point out that A2A, Milviz, Carenado, Alabeo will not gain my MSFS related purchases until a) there is user friendly capability to customize aircraft configuration files; b) effective partnering with add on avionics developers like RXP; and in regard to add on airports a much improved and more complete modeling of autopilots in the sim. 

I do a good deal of IFR flying and with the shortcomings of MSFS being what they clearly are, I am sightseeing in MSFS and doing my serious flying back in FSX SE.  I just built a new MSFS focused system and immediately found I needed to get back to my serious flying.  I chose FSX SE over P3D only due to cost, and the fact that I have tons of earlier add on products and freeware, only part of which are P3D v4 and above compatible.

Some noteworthy developers are concerned that they are so far locked out by a lack of assistance or partnering.  As a community we should ID those situations and build a loud choir of support.  Lack of quality avionics, for example, will cost add on aircraft developers sales of new MSFS products.

Add on developers will suffer due to the MSFS shortcomings.  Is it just me?

And read my signature.  Weather is important to me.  Today on flights from St Louis to Minneapolis, and later from Minneapolis to Kansas City, I was getting relatively accurate weather from ATIS, but that weather and winds were nowhere to be found in the flying environment.  To say I was "Steamed" is an understatement.  So I rebooted and "let off some Steam" for a much better IFR experience.

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Frank Patton
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I hope this can be resolved asap as it will stifle development

Wayne such

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I got my instrument rating in 2003, and flown only one instrument approach on autopilot ever since!  I do use GPS only when it's required.

All you really need is six pack, charts, timer, instrument scan, instrument-cross check and instrument interpretation! MSFS fits this bill as is and right now!

All it misses is current NAV data!

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

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2 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I got my instrument rating in 2003, and flown only one instrument approach on autopilot ever since!  I do use GPS only when it's required.

All you really need is six pack, charts, timer, instrument scan, instrument-cross check and instrument interpretation! MSFS fits this bill as is and right now!

All it misses is current NAV data!

I totally agree with that but it still needs to cater for the more sophisticated addons

Wayne such

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1 minute ago, Jetman67 said:

I totally agree with that but it still needs to cater for the more sophisticated addons

We do, meanwhile good stick and rudder skill is pretty rewarding. There are few airplanes that not that bad!

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

I'm totally enjoying when I get a chance to fly, I'm ready to delete p3d and wait for the advanced stiff, too much hassle managing both

Wayne such

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1 hour ago, fppilot said:

As much as I anticipate quality add on aircraft and airport sceneries it is important to point out that A2A, Milviz, Carenado, Alabeo will not gain my MSFS related purchases until a) there is user friendly capability to customize aircraft configuration files; b) effective partnering with add on avionics developers like RXP; and in regard to add on airports a much improved and more complete modeling of autopilots in the sim. 

 

    I was just thinking about how much I'm missing my RXP units in this sim and then I read your post.  👍

Bill

Bill  N7IBG     

             

1 hour ago, fppilot said:


Add on developers will suffer due to the MSFS shortcomings.  Is it just me?

 

Nope... they will continue to develop for P3D and leave MSFS in the dust...

Chris Camp

49 minutes ago, Jetman67 said:

I'm totally enjoying when I get a chance to fly, I'm ready to delete p3d and wait for the advanced stiff, too much hassle managing both

What kind of hassle is there in 'managing' P3D once installed, addons, stable etc?  I never change anything in P3D I just enjoy 4.5 for what it offers w/ for airliner flights using FSCaptain.   I'm enjoying MSFS greatly too now, but for what it takes to make P3D run unless you're out of drive space why not just keep it?  Requires no updates if you don't want to.  And so nice to have all of the PMDG birds working well, visuals w/ REXSF/ASN4 and FSCaptain make it still a very relavent simulation experience--it's that good, in its own way.  I never thought I would have any interest in keeping two sims in the box but now I most certainly do.  They both shine in different areas.  P3D is seems far ahead of MSFS in the study level tubeliner domain.   And it's real decent w/ the HD airports added, etc.

Noel

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

11 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

Nope... they will continue to develop for P3D and leave MSFS in the dust...

I'm sure many of them will and are continuing to make add-ons for those platforms, and that's good.  But you can bet any remotely business-minded add-on company is not going to "leave MSFS in the dust", simply because the SDK isn't yet to a place where they can port their particular wares over, lol

WOW, didn't PMDG give a discount for an addon and if purchased it would be MSFS compatible? Of course they didnt say when.

 

 

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2 hours ago, fppilot said:

I do a good deal of IFR flying and with the shortcomings of MSFS being what they clearly are, I am sightseeing in MSFS and doing my serious flying back in FSX SE. 

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G'day Frank,

I was wondering why you didn't opt for the 10700K or KF.

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Tony K.
 

These kinds of posts where someone frames there opinions as fact like they know something others don't is getting old and ridiculous.

You do serious flying? What IFR? So VFR work isn't serious flying? Go get a life dude....

 

My job is 100% IFR. You aren't as serious as you think you are. 

FAA: ATP-ME, 737 CA, enough time in the 757/767 to be dangerous 🤠

Matt Kubanda, 7950X3D, 64GB RAM, RTX 5090@4k, MSFS 2024

 

 

 

2 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

 I do use GPS only when it's required.

In my country there are very few radio navaids now. All IFR aircraft are mandated to be fitted with atleast TSO129 GNSS and all routes are now RNAV routes. I teach IFR and we do teach radio aids if a student requires it (usually those aspiring to fly professionally) but it is mostly GNSS. I fly 1 NDB approach annually to simply keep my ability to be able to teach it valid.

The days of clock, egg timer etc. like when I gained my Instrument Rating in 1985 are over.

David Porrett

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