On 10/6/2020 at 11:32 PM, jabloomf1230 said:

The MSFS offline traffic works much better than the online. It's fairly straightforward to modify the  AIG flightplans using AI Flight Planner for use with the IVAO models. It won't be too much longer before AIG releases its AI Manager for MSFS. 

official statement for AIGAIM/OCI in our Forum: https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=34633

 

for now it is still to early to tell how AI will develop in the next months but AIG is commited to bring OCI to MSFS (but there are still some big questionsmarks and we want to bring a 100% solution and not just a quick and dirty 50% solution)

What is python and where to get it?

Gnacino

Edited October 10, 20205 yr by Gnacino

It's a scripting language. Here's the download link:

https://www.python.org/downloads/

You might already have it installed as it's included with a variety of apps that use it for scripting.

Please Vote here:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/live-traffic-improvements/281683

 

2 hours ago, Gnacino said:

What is python and where to get it?

Gnacino

It is the most fun programming language ever, and it's free.

Keep the thread going... 

The megapack liveries include AI liveries that can be ticked for all Airlines, and it works great, I have 100% AI Airliners setting and it is very hectic traffic at my bigger airports.

Any updates? Last I read they were focusing primarily on the FLAi conversion and had moved on from IVAO...

Edit - found the new post here:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/announcement-fslivetraffic-liveries-fsltl/297900

 

 

Edited October 14, 20205 yr by DylanM

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PhantomStreak

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This is great work by you guys. Have you considered working with AIG 33?Reply

Nerbulus

12h

Attempting to get into some level of contact. They are less than pleased that we are using their models (even though we are giving credit and trying to get in contact), so we’ll see.

 

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The people behind this project are terribly confused. First of all, both the IVAO AI package and FLAi have nothing to do with AIG. Almost all of the models used in both packages are freeware FAIB models done long ago by Erez Werber. Whether anyone got permission from Werber is the real question. But the models are not really the main issue. Most of what has been "borrowed" are liveries and many of those were done by AIG staff and members. No permission was asked for the use of these liveries, to my knowledge. AIG is in a difficult situation. On one hand, they don't want to limit an extension of their work and punish the flightsim user base. On the other hand, having third parties just "giving credit" and then providing an add-on as their own is really disingenuous.

I'm sure some here will dismiss model painting as trivial talent, but when one looks at some of the inaccurate mashups that people have done for the MSFS A320neo, one realizes that painting is an art. It requires knowledge of texture creation, font types and color matching. There is a tremendous amount of tedious work that goes into creating an accurate livery. I have done exactly one livery in my whole life and that was for the NYS Police Huey and it was endless work. And I know a thing or two about Photoshop.

Some of this issue is eventually going to be old news. First of all, FSPXAI has previously developed payware AI aircraft models for FSX and P3d and has a target date of Q1 21 for the release of the first MSFS versions.  Many of these models already have a variety of high quality liveries done by AIG and others and will convert nicely to MSFS. Second, AIG is hard at work on their own AI traffic package and conversions. They have clearly stated in their forums that they won't be rushed into releasing some half-baked mess.

Edited October 14, 20205 yr by jabloomf1230

I hope that these files can also be used by users who, like me, create their own flight plans!

12 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said:

The people behind this project are terribly confused. First of all, both the IVAO AI package and FLAi have nothing to do with AIG. Almost all of the models used in both packages are freeware FAIB models done long ago by Erez Werber. Whether anyone got permission from Werber is the real question. But the models are not really the main issue. Most of what has been "borrowed" are liveries and many of those were done by AIG staff and members. No permission was asked for the use of these liveries, to my knowledge. AIG is in a difficult situation. On one hand, they don't want to limit an extension of their work and punish the flightsim user base. On the other hand, having third parties just "giving credit" and then providing an add-on as their own is really disingenuous.

I'm sure some here will dismiss model painting as trivial talent, but when one looks at some of the inaccurate mashups that people have done for the MSFS A320neo, one realizes that painting is an art. It requires knowledge of texture creation, font types and color matching. There is a tremendous amount of tedious work that goes into creating an accurate livery. I have done exactly one livery in my whole life and that was for the NYS Police Huey and it was endless work. And I know a thing or two about Photoshop.

Some of this issue is eventually going to be old news. First of all, FSPXAI has previously developed payware AI aircraft models for FSX and P3d and has a target date of Q1 21 for the release of the first MSFS versions.  Many of these models already have a variety of high quality liveries done by AIG and others and will convert nicely to MSFS. Second, AIG is hard at work on their own AI traffic package and conversions. They have clearly stated in their forums that they won't be rushed into releasing some half-baked mess.

From the same post on the msfs forums, Kaiii3 posted:

Short update regarding the question of AIG involvment. We (AIG) got first word about his project here in our Forum and on the first look it was quite confusing on what this project was all about. That was the reason we reacted a bit of defensive.

After some clarification we now know what this project is all about and it might be very usefull for a fast transition of AIGAIM-OCI for MSFS. For more detail discussions AIG will get in contact with the developers, to bring the best of AI to MSFS

On 10/14/2020 at 7:17 AM, Phantoms said:

From the same post on the msfs forums, Kaiii3 posted:

 

 

Very interesting!... Please keep this thread going then, as it seems like AIG and others might be closer to a solution than previously thought.

What is the difference between this and the package from the Discord team?

8 minutes ago, Drumcode said:

What is the difference between this and the package from the Discord team?

This is AI model and textures for only Ai/Live traffic, they're not player liveries.

2 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

This is AI model and textures for only Ai/Live traffic, they're not player liveries.

Isn't the Discord's package also for AI?