November 13, 20205 yr Turned them off weeks ago. Smooth as butter. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
November 13, 20205 yr If you are using an SSD and have rolling cache on, you are reducing the lifespan of your SSD. Unless you know precisely why you need it on - you don’t. If you think you might need it on, you don’t. Switch it off and forget it exists. GregH Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor
November 13, 20205 yr I did a few flights tonight around Vancouver which uses Photogrammetry in the downtown core and normal rendering outside the core. I tried doing a high quality manual cache, using the rolling cache, and turning off the cache. It made no difference at all to performance or visuals. Now I have a 600Mbps internet connection and a ultra fast M2 drive, so I'm not sure those would reveal any bottlenecks anyway. But at least for me, I'll leave it on. I don't see any reason to turn it off.
November 13, 20205 yr 51 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said: I don't see any reason to turn it off. Well, if you have a super fast internet connection and a fast m2 SSD, you also have no reason to leave it on, no? Especially if you anyway don't see any difference, you have basically absolutely no reason to have a rolling cache. Think about all those read and write cycles on your m2 SSD and turn it off 😉 Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
November 13, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, AnkH said: Well, if you have a super fast internet connection and a fast m2 SSD, you also have no reason to leave it on, no? Especially if you anyway don't see any difference, you have basically absolutely no reason to have a rolling cache. Think about all those read and write cycles on your m2 SSD and turn it off 😉 I guess if it is working as advertised, I’m saving some internet bandwidth for someone else like the lady in the other room watching Netflix ;). And my M2 drive is 50x faster than my internet connection so it makes me feel like it’s faster LOL. I don’t worry about write cycles. In fact the cache might reduce writes if you visit the same places. But Im sure the drive will be long replaced before I wear it out.
November 13, 20205 yr 29 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said: I guess if it is working as advertised, I’m saving some internet bandwidth for someone else like the lady in the other room watching Netflix ;). And my M2 drive is 50x faster than my internet connection so it makes me feel like it’s faster LOL. I don’t worry about write cycles. In fact the cache might reduce writes if you visit the same places. But Im sure the drive will be long replaced before I wear it out. I agree, it would be hard to know if the cache is increasing or reducing write cycles, given most people tend to repeat flights, but overall no way to know without monitoring it. AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
November 13, 20205 yr 23 hours ago, desbean said: Some people over in the flightsim forum are freaking out about 'hidden" Xvid drives shown in the device manager-disk drives list and deleting them. It should be noted that grayed out drives in that list are not necessarily even there. A history of drives is kept in that list. For example in my list there are several usb and external hard drives listed that I have plugged into my machine in the past, but are no longer plugged in. They are grayed out because they are not there. I have 7 Xvd drives listed, but only one is not gray. You can delete the one that isn't gray, but then you will likely have to reinstall MSFS. As far as the cache I used to have one but I noticed that the drive that had it was never accessed when MSFS started up or was running, even in areas I had just flown in recently. I deleted and turned mine off. Virtual drives, AND volumes. Two different things in two different locations of the device manager. Just to clarify. The only reason I researched this is because of the strange volume in Disc Defragmenter. I don't like "mystery" items on my pc, so I started researching. Edited November 13, 20205 yr by Waldo Pepper
November 14, 20205 yr 18 hours ago, AnkH said: Well, if you have a super fast internet connection and a fast m2 SSD, you also have no reason to leave it on, no? Especially if you anyway don't see any difference, you have basically absolutely no reason to have a rolling cache. Think about all those read and write cycles on your m2 SSD and turn it off 😉 I give, what is the rolling cache SUPPOSED TO DO? Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 14, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Noel said: I give, what is the rolling cache SUPPOSED TO DO? According to Asobo, it is supposed to store detail scenery data as you fly over it, so that, if you return there, you do not have to stream it a second time, but can load it from the cache.. As best I can tell, it does exactly that. Bert
November 14, 20205 yr 18 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said: I guess if it is working as advertised, I’m saving some internet bandwidth for someone else like the lady in the other room watching Netflix ;). And my M2 drive is 50x faster than my internet connection so it makes me feel like it’s faster LOL. I don’t worry about write cycles. In fact the cache might reduce writes if you visit the same places. But Im sure the drive will be long replaced before I wear it out. Just curious what your cache size is set at? Is it a custom size? Realized mine defaulted to 0 when I turned it on... Edited November 14, 20205 yr by DylanM
November 14, 20205 yr So is it confirmed the rolling cache really works? I set mine to 64GB, which should store a decent amount if its actually doing its job. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
November 14, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Bert Pieke said: According to Asobo, it is supposed to store detail scenery data as you fly over it, so that, if you return there, you do not have to stream it a second time, but can load it from the cache.. As best I can tell, it does exactly that. Well that doesn't sound bad provided it off-loaded to a non main-thread core. I tried with and without and didn't notice a difference. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 14, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, odourboy said: So is it confirmed the rolling cache really works? I set mine to 64GB, which should store a decent amount if its actually doing its job. Not entirely sure if bigger is better.... The bigger cache needs more CPU cycles to manage.. Asobo used to recommend 15 GB. Bert
November 14, 20205 yr I suspect a big rolling cache would be beneficial if you have very slow and limited bandwidth internet and potentially detrimental if you have fast internet and unlimited downloads. In other words if you are connecting to the net via cell phone with only a few GB of data a month set a big cache and try to restrict your flying to a few regular areas. If you are on 250MB or higher with unlimited downloads, just turn it off. If your internet is somewhere in between .. who knows? maybe just go with defaults. Edited November 14, 20205 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick
November 14, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, DylanM said: Just curious what your cache size is set at? Is it a custom size? Realized mine defaulted to 0 when I turned it on... I set it to 64GB back when I first installed MSFS. Maybe I should double check that. Edited November 14, 20205 yr by Virtual-Chris
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