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Carenado PA44 mini review

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I would be a buyer of some GA on sale, only the files are hidden. If I can't tune the control sensitivities and move the point of balance, I'm not interested. I fly all the standard edition. None of the Premium because I can't make them fly like real life which could be done in fifteen minutes testing permanently for each plane, if I could get to the files.

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3 hours ago, DJJose said:

I'd also love to hear Mooney or Ovation, but so far no one has come up with a fix. There's probably someone who knows how to do it. Create a new thread. Then create one in the MSFS forum.

Well with the Iris J160/J170 jabiru package the ATC definitely calls it "Jabiru" so it can be done.

49 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Well with the Iris J160/J170 jabiru package the ATC definitely calls it "Jabiru" so it can be done.

interesting. I wonder why Carenado has not added this feature to their airplanes?

MSFS

2 hours ago, DJJose said:

interesting. I wonder why Carenado has not added this feature to their airplanes?

 

I checked to make sure i was not imagining it, both the Pilot and ATC reference "Jabiru" , check the video below:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Glenn Fitzpatrick

Well, I took the plunge. Great modeling as expected.  Lots of system issues (Sim Update 2 12/22)... several things not working.  I KNOW BETTER than to hope that this would not be a repeat of the Mooney cycle, but at $18 I couldn't help myself... I'm glad I didn't pay retail.  Hopefully there will be an interim update from @Carenado as at the moment it looks like wash, rinse, repeat.

Caveat Emptor!

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So, regarding the ATC callout for the plane, I created a livery for the Mooney. Which involved creating an Aircraft.cfg file for it, which is...

[VERSION]
major = 1
minor = 0

[VARIATION]
base_container = "..\Carenado_M20R_Ovation"

[GENERAL]
atc_type = "TT:ATCCOM.ATC_NAME MOONEY.0.text"
atc_model = "TT:ATCCOM.AC_MODEL M20R.0.text"
Category = "airplane"
pilot = "Pilot_Female_Casual"
copilot = "Pilot_Male_Casual"
instructor = "Pilot_Male_Casual"
performance = "Maximum Speed\n197 kts            365 km\/hr\n\nCruise Speed\n174 kts            322 km\/hr\n\nEngine\nContinental IO-550-G 6 cylinder 280 bhp\n\nPropeller\nThree-Bladed Macauley Constant Speed\n\nMaximum Range\n1350 nm            1553 mi          2500 km\n\nService Ceiling\n20,000 ft\t         6096 m\n\nFuel Capacity\n95 gal\t          360 L\t \n\nEmpty Weight\n2,290 lb\t          1,039 kg\n\nMaximum Gross Weight\n3,368 lb\t          1,528 kg\n\nLength\n24 ft, 7 in          7.5 m\n\nWingspan\n36 ft, 1 in\t           11 m\n\nHeight\n8 ft, 3 in\t           2.5 m\n\nSeating\t           4\n\nUseful Load\n1,078 lb\t           490 kg\n"
icao_type_designator = "M20R"
icao_manufacturer = "Mooney"
icao_model = "Ovation"
icao_engine_type = "Piston"
icao_engine_count = 1
icao_WTC = "L"

[PILOT]
pilot = "Pilot_Female_Casual"
copilot = "Pilot_Male_Casual"
instructor = "Pilot_Male_Casual"
pilot_default_animation = "Idle1_PosePropeller"
copilot_default_animation = "Idle2_PosePropeller"
pilot_attach_node = "PILOT_0"
copilot_attach_node = "PILOT_1"

[SERVICES]
FUELTRUCK = 1
BAGGAGE_LOADER = 0
CATERING_TRUCK = 0
BOARDING_RAMP = 0
GROUND_POWER_UNIT = 0
PUSHBACK = 0
SMALL_PUSHBACK = 0
MARSHALLER = 1
JETWAY = 0

[TIMELINE.FLIGHT_RUNWAY]
Flaps = 0

[fltsim.0]
title="Carenado M20R N20JX"
model="N20JX"
panel=""
sound=""
texture="N20JX"
kb_checklists=""
kb_reference=""
ui_manufacturer="Mooney"
ui_type="M20R Ovation"
ui_variation="N20JX"
ui_typerole="Single Engine Prop"
ui_createdby="Carenado / FlyingsCool"
description="M20J flown by Daniel Webster College for complex flight training."
wip_indicator=2
ui_thumbnailfile=""
ui_certified_ceiling=20000
ui_max_range=1350
ui_autonomy=6
ui_fuel_burn_rate=90
atc_id="N20JX"
atc_id_enable=1
atc_id_color="0x2F0204"
atc_id_font=""
atc_heavy=0
atc_airline=""
atc_flight_number=""
atc_parking_types="RAMP"
atc_parking_codes=""
isAirTraffic=0
isUserSelectable=1
icao_airline=""
visual_damage=1
sim=M20R

The two lines

atc_type = "TT:ATCCOM.ATC_NAME MOONEY.0.text"
atc_model = "TT:ATCCOM.AC_MODEL M20R.0.text"

should cause ATC to call it properly.  I checked the fs-base enloc file, and the format is the same as the two lines above.  I checked the Cessna and it is correctly called Cessna November blah blah, and it has the identical syntax with appropriate information for the Cessna.  Unfortunately, even though the above file renames all liveries for the plane from Carenado M20R Ovation to Mooney M20R Ovation in the hangar and aircraft picker, it does not fix the ATC call out. 😞  So, the Carenado aircraft.cfg info must override the ATC callout lines in my livery.

As a side note, in going through all the planes in the default installation, interestingly, the syntax of those two lines across all the planes is all over the place.  Many have "NAME_Blah" and "MODEL_Blah" or "Name Blah" and "Model_Blah" or "Name_Blah" and "Model Blah".  It's amazing how sloppy these Asobo coders are.  It's no wonder we're flooded with bugs with every release.  I don't care if a _ represents a space.  The above format is what is consistently written the en_loc file (and the Cessna aircraft I checked against).  Formatting is so important for code and being consistent across the board reduces the chance of mistakes.  I'm positive this is only a small example of the inconsistency in coding through the product.

I plan to eventually create a livery for Daniel Webster's Seminole(s), too.

Edited by FlyingsCool

Tom Perry

 

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I just purchased the Seminole. Tried to shoot an ILS in the poor Southern California weather today. 
 

I could not for the life of me get any glide slope indication. Localizer seemed to work okay though.

 

tried the same in the Mooney and both localizer and glide slope worked. 

1 hour ago, Azapata87 said:

I just purchased the Seminole. Tried to shoot an ILS in the poor Southern California weather today. 
 

I could not for the life of me get any glide slope indication. Localizer seemed to work okay though.

 

tried the same in the Mooney and both localizer and glide slope worked. 

Hmmm I'll have to try.  I just sent them a bug about NAV2 knob/obs.

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1 hour ago, Azapata87 said:

I just purchased the Seminole. Tried to shoot an ILS in the poor Southern California weather today. 
 

I could not for the life of me get any glide slope indication. Localizer seemed to work okay though.

 

tried the same in the Mooney and both localizer and glide slope worked. 

Nav2 works fine.  In fact, I used it to smoothly land a completely iced over plane today right down the runway even though I couldn't see a thing except sparkles of the runway lights through the ice 🙂.  There doesn't seem to be a glideslope indicator on the HSI, not to mention the NAV flag won't turn off.  The alignment indication of the HSI works fine though in both GPS and VLOC modes using the GNS530 mod.

According to the GNS530 mod author, the GNS does not send any commands to the HSI to control its state.

Edited by FlyingsCool

Tom Perry

 

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GS not present on HSI - I'll log a bug

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2 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

GS not present on HSI - I'll log a bug

Add to it that HSI has GPS indicator meaning it should sync with GNS530 in GPS mode.

But hey  Carenado always states their airplanes are tested by real pilots for accuracy 😉 

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1 minute ago, sd_flyer said:

Add to it that HSI has GPS indicator meaning it should sync with GNS530 in GPS mode.

But hey  Carenado always states their airplanes are tested by real pilots for accuracy 😉 

Does the analogue HSI auto slave with a real GNS530W?  I actually have no idea.  My friend's beech I fly had a HSI and we have a GNS430W.  I don't think it auto slaved. But I could be wrong.  Buddy now has a Garmin G5 which does auto slave.

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8 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

But hey  Carenado always states their airplanes are tested by real pilots for accuracy 😉 

We all know 'tested by real pilots', in Carenado's case, actually means they get their mates Bob and Dave, who were pilots 20 years ago before they both had their licences revoked for dangerous flying, to look at it, and if they both say: 'yeah, that looks like a Cessna', then the criteria is met. 🤣

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40 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

Does the analogue HSI auto slave with a real GNS530W?  I actually have no idea.  My friend's beech I fly had a HSI and we have a GNS430W.  I don't think it auto slaved. But I could be wrong.  Buddy now has a Garmin G5 which does auto slave.

I have g106 CDI that slave with GNS430. Seminole HSI that flew was sync to GPS. I did GPS approach as part of my multi commercial add on checkride. In fact before my multi I didn't do much GPS approaches at all as most aircraft I flew didn't  have  GNS with WAAS

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34 minutes ago, Chock said:

We all know 'tested by real pilots', in Carenado's case, actually means they get their mates Bob and Dave, who were pilots 20 years ago before they both had their licences revoked for dangerous flying, to look at it, and if they both say: 'yeah, that looks like a Cessna', then the criteria is met. 🤣

Or may be they have imaginary friend pilots who fly every single aircraft they sell LOL

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Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

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