30 minutes ago, sanh said:

Aerosoft are clearly going for the mainstream sim market rather than the much smaller hard core market. Nothing wrong with that.

And thats basically where the whole Sim is going to.

Despite all the arguments being made against it in this pre-release discussion of the CRJ, I think many will end up buying it. It will be the only airliner for months with decent functionality, meaning all necessary systems looking and working close enough to their irl-counterparts and giving some meaning to the "simulator" part of the title. As to the qualification of Hans Hartmann: his Piper Cheyenne was second to none for FSX and well into the P3d-era. Can't tell for his CRJ because it's not an airplane I'm very much interested in and therefore skipped for P3D, but it will have to suffice until the next release of any aircraft on that compexity level or above. I will probably wait a few days into the release and enjoy the aftermath here in the forums, but it looks like a clear purchase for me after the first round of the unevitable bugfixes.

36 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

Pre-release threads on avsim are usually just as entertaining as the post-release ones.

The rule is: if you don't like something, it's not just enough to not buy it, you wanna start a Long thread about it.

Even more bizzarely, on avsim folks  buy stuff they don't like, and then keep on buying it (Carenado).

Completely defies logic and reason.

Unfortunately, most of this thread will either be deleted or hidden from those who need to know before they buy. We have a responsibility as a community to inform the uninformed.

1 hour ago, edpatino said:

Please use the search function in the forum, by key words like "CRJ for P3D", for example. You'll find useful information.

Cheers, Ed

I'll do, thanks!!!

Don't quite understand all the negativity Aerosoft seem to attract. Quite clearly some people have just decided they don't like Aerosoft, some of whom may have a legitimate reason/bad experience which prompt this, but many others don't appear to have a very legitimate reason for the dislike, yet state things along the lines of saying all their stuff is awful, which is quite evidently not the case.

Just off the top of my head I can name several Aerosoft products which are great, including their PBY Catalina, Wilga, Antonov AN-2, H36 Dimona, Diamond DA-20 Katana, Bronco, DC-8, Airbus variants, Cologne/Bonn airport and surrounding scenery (this one has a good claim to being the best airport scenery for P3D bar none). Some of these products have included quite sophisticated/innovative features too, so I also don't quite understand the notion that Aerosoft wouldn't be a good choice for helping with an SDK either, when their little GA aeroplanes were among the first to have comprehensive maintenance features which rivalled and in some cases bettered those of A2A offerings, such as the ability to clean the aeroplane and shock cooling and plug fouling on a throttled-back descent in their Catalina.

I suppose the fact that their CEO is prepared to stick his head above the parapet and engage in their forums on a regular basis is part of what makes them a target for people, and this in particular when he is not afraid to state his opinions, but personally, I'd rather have someone who calls a spade a spade when commenting on the company's ethos rather than someone who merely offers infrequent and nebulous platitudes with little real substance or info.

If you've taken a dislike to Aerosoft, then that is your choice of course, but make sure you have a genuine good reason to do so, because I find that there are plenty of reasons to come to a completely different conclusion.

Ahhh...I see multiple active P3D forum members have ventured over to the MSFS forum to 'inform' us how terrible the CRJ and Aerosoft are; obviously, the latter is evil for publicly stating P3D sales have tanked and it's viability going forward is questionable.  This is mostly nonsense spewed from members who have a vested (emotional/finical) interested in P3D.  In short,  the CRJ is a fine aircraft and priced incredibly well compared to its competitors...no one should have any concerns about purchasing this product.

1 hour ago, Tom_L said:

Despite all the arguments being made against it in this pre-release discussion of the CRJ, I think many will end up buying it. It will be the only airliner for months with decent functionality, meaning all necessary systems looking and working close enough to their irl-counterparts and giving some meaning to the "simulator" part of the title.

Well said, this is why I’ll likely buy it unless it’s an unusable dumpster fire.

2 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Well said, this is why I’ll likely buy it unless it’s an unusable dumpster fire.

same here

@ChockIf this thread was about Cologne/Bonn for MSFS, I doubt there would be much negativity because it was and currently is an excellent add-on.

So, there is a long thread "Aerosoft implying FS2020 is the future. This is indeed really going to get funny.

 

A person who claims himself their products are not intended for professionals (let`s say simulation), does think he can teach Flight Simulation fans, FS2020 is the future.

 

Reviews will be interesting to watch.

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 20205 yr by BigDee

I have no major expectations for this aircraft if it uses the Sims AP and FMS functionality.

2 minutes ago, BigDee said:

So, there is a long thread "Aerosoft implying FS2020 is the future. This is indeed really going to get funny.

 

A person who claims himself their products are not intended for professionals (let`s say simulation), does think he can teach Flight Simulation fans, FS2020 is the future.

 

Asobo 2.0 incoming.

 

 

Hmm, what now? 

36 minutes ago, DJJose said:

@ChockIf this thread was about Cologne/Bonn for MSFS, I doubt there would be much negativity because it was and currently is an excellent add-on.

True, but I mentioned that product on this thread in relation to the people on this thread who claim everything Aerosoft does is bad, when that scenery is quite clear evidence the notion is nonsense.

I am one of the people who bought the original Aerosoft CRJ when it first came out and if anyone cares to search the archives of Avsim threads about that when it was initially released and a bit glitchy, they will see I was among the people who experienced that right from the start yet was able to fly the thing pretty well in spite of the shaky release it initially had.

If I recall correctly, the one time I commented on the CRJ situation in a critical way was when the developer was off for a weekend when it urgently needed a patch immediately following its release, and I (ironically enough given the 'professional' comments) said that was a bit unprofessional to leave it in that way when people had paid for it upon release and had immediate problems. Other than that, I didn't have too much of a problem with their P3D CRJ, or their old XPlane version for that matter, which I also own.

So yeah, not everything they do is perfect, and nor have I ever held that view.

Edited December 1, 20205 yr by Chock

I bought the CRJ earlier this year and the biggest complaint seemed to be that it strayed off course on Autopilot. I think it happened to me once or twice but was pretty infrequent. The developers on the forum seemed interested in resolving it but it was difficult to replicate. I think they eventually figured it out based on a more recent patch change log.

8 minutes ago, NightOfDreams said:

I bought the CRJ earlier this year and the biggest complaint seemed to be that it strayed off course on Autopilot. I think it happened to me once or twice but was pretty infrequent. The developers on the forum seemed interested in resolving it but it was difficult to replicate. I think they eventually figured it out based on a more recent patch change log.

Ironic given the state of the MSFS AP!