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A game or a simulation?

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Why does it matter whether people call it a game, or a simulation?  It is exactly what it is, no matter what it's called.

Noel

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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Simulation is used in many contexts, such as simulation of safety engineering, testing, training, education, and video games.

A simulation video game describes a diverse super-category of video games, generally designed to closely simulate real world activities.

Amateur flight simulation refers to the simulation of various aspects of flight or the flight environment for purposes other than flight training or aircraft development.

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It's a sim for me, but my friends and family probably see me as a ridiculous nerd when I talk about it.

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On 12/21/2020 at 5:08 AM, Sabinede said:

 

From this “commercial point of view, some things that were previously incomprehensible may become clearer.

MS wants to reach a mass market with the flying game, but the users who come back from Prepard 3d and others are neglectable. A simulation that requires top-class hardware is not the target group!

 

Compare the numbers FS2020, 2 million, Fortnite 250 million registered users.

 

We have to be prepared for it!

very true....something that appeals to the masses, kids and adults alike, is what is going to be developed

Kind regards,

Tim

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This old chestnut still doing in the rounds? The answer’s in the title for flip’s sake.

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2 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

This old chestnut still doing in the rounds? The answer’s in the title for flip’s sake.

my guess is some just don't see it that way even though Microsoft tried to persuade by using Simulator in their title

Kind regards,

Tim

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Game. And a bad one.

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When I get one later this year I want this Game on my XBOX Series X.

 

Raymond Fry.

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The answer IS, drum roll:

Flight Simulator

Hence the name, MSFS.

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MSFS

Call it, use/don't use it as as you see fit. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Like another poster said my G/F will tell you what it REALLY is.

Who the heck cares if it's a game or sim. Some of guys either need a life or a girlfriend. I know it's a global pandemic and all but you can still go outside,go to the park ride a bike, have a cookout lol

If you're having fun, does it matter what it's called?

If you like knocking boots with your Mrs. (or Mr.), does it matter whether it's called sex or something else?

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Let's get down to the perceptions about exactly what is missing from MSFS that contributes to the opinion MSFS isn't a simulation, versus P3D which isn't questioned as a 'simulation'.    Leave out features that are in MSFS, but not quite good enough, for example ATC, which is present but poorly implemented, so far.  I think it's reasonable to assume MS/A will work on ATC and other areas that as I say are present in MSFS, but not quite there yet.  Same same for stability and performance issues which are part of all 'flight simulations' at some point in their development.

Okay...GO!  List what's missing from MSFS it will be an interesting discussion!   My gestalt on this mainly is that the SDK isn't robust enough to implement more systems and features.  Or to put it where the goats can get it, if the SDK was robust enough to allow PMDG and others to produce an NGXu/777/Dash 8 that functions essentially the same in MSFS as in P3D, does MSFS then qualify as a simulation for all of those people who see it as a 'game'?  Surely the way it's delivered, PC v Xbox, should have zero to do with sim v game ultimately.

 

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

Definitely not a game here. Just posted the trailer for my next video. Full IFR to VFR flight plan to the Everest massif, SID departure from Kathmandu combined with identification of mountains, glaciers and summit routes at FL300.

 

 

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