32 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

So far in the 6 months I have had this sim I have bought:

• Jabiru -   FM is not 100% on edge of envelope,  but so long as you stick to sane normal flight conditions is fine. Fly these in real life so absolutely worth it for me for sure
• Mooney, my go to aircraft for longer flights with the gn530 freeware mod - definitely earnt it's keep
• Bleriot XI - a real novelty I have flown a lot, no regrets at all
• YMF-5 - buggy as heck when it came out and still is a bit that way but this radial engine biplane outrageous fun, well worth it
• Aerolite 103 - also very buggy and seemingly ignored by the devs but the visual model and high visibility makes up for it

Of those the Mooney is similar to the Bonanza and the Jabiru is a cross between a few of the default lights however they are different enough to be worth it.

There is nothing in the default planes remotely like the Bleriot, 103 or YMF-5 .

So 5 planes in 6  months at an average of around $25 each which works out at maybe $6 a week. Fine by me.

Next, I intend to pick up the G91 the P149 and the two Arrows. I might get the Kodiak in a month or two when that comes out.   I doubt I will regret any of those purchases either.

 

 

 

I like the $25 price tag for the version of the Arrow. I don't care about a discount if it's priced fairly. No need for sales. I want everyone to enjoy this new offering and I'm confident that no one here would mind a fair price for everyone. The Piaggio is a good example. It's a beauty at $25. No sales required.

As already stated, it's up to the sellers what they want to charge and it's always up to the customer to decide what they are willing to invest.

1 minute ago, Bushido5 said:

Unless you are not interested in these aircraft of course, no obligation to buy all payware that goes out.

I have both aircraft for P3D and I even have a payware CRJ for XPlane with a sound add-on that had to be purchased separately. 😀

So I'm definitely interested.

I love Arrows! This one of few aircraft that I flew nearly every model. It's a big crude but very robust a perfect choice for training! It can take a lot of beating! I feel sorry for new generation of pilots no longer required to fly complex aircraft (as it used defined in PTS) for commercial certificate.

I have rented tons of Arrows when I used to be private pilot. I did my commercial single engine in Arrow! And consequently I thought in Arrow. I also almost purchased one! This one of my favorite RW aircraft . Definite buy for me. And it sucks JF won't let me preview it LOL

 

And for those who would like to study more from my personal collection . Automatic gear extension system. If you flew with that than you are as ancient as I'm LOL

 

21 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Definite buy for me. And it sucks JF won't let me preview it LOL

That's odd.

Us in the beta team could always use more knowledge. I have never flown the arrow, so I focus more on the carry over items/systems from the Warrior-line.

Edited March 3, 20215 yr by SAS443

23 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I love Arrows! This one of few aircraft that I flew nearly every model. It's a big crude but very robust a perfect choice for training! It can take a lot of beating! I feel sorry for new generation of pilots no longer required to fly complex aircraft (as it used defined in PTS) for commercial certificate.

I have rented tons of Arrows when I used to be private pilot. I did my commercial single engine in Arrow! And consequently I thought in Arrow. I also almost purchased one! This one of my favorite RW aircraft . Definite buy for me. And it sucks JF won't let me preview it LOL

I know the feeling. I flew the Arrow just for the complex endorsement in my log book. Before it was rented by an idjiat who crashed it while trying to fly under a telephone wire to show off to his wife and g'friend.

I like the Arrow and the Seminole which I Bought because I've lots of hours in it.. the Seminole from Coronado is what I got my Multi Engine rating. 🙂

The VC in the Arrow with its aged look looks great.

Edited March 3, 20215 yr by Manny

23 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

That's odd.

Us in the beta team could always use more knowledge. I have never flown the arrow, so I focus more on the carry over items/systems from the Warrior-line.

Ironically me being 172 owner I actually learn how to fly in PA28 Archer. Did my first solo in Cruiser! What I love about older Piper they are pretty much standard. All have same standard manual flaps, gauges layout in the same place and so on. Jumping from one model to another is easy. However, I'm not talking about even more older PA28 which had rudder trim on the roof or newer that have overhead panel !

1 hour ago, Manny said:

I know the feeling. I flew the Arrow just for the complex endorsement in my log book. Before it was rented by an idjiat who crashed it while trying to fly under a telephone wire to show off to his wife and g'friend.

 

Were they BOTH in the a/c with him when this happened? That fool is lucky to have lived to tell the tale. 

7 minutes ago, badgenes said:

Were they BOTH in the a/c with him when this happened? That fool is lucky to have lived to tell the tale. 

All three died. Witness gave their account of what he was doing. It was rented from a flight school at Arlington airport,  DFW.

Edited March 3, 20215 yr by Manny

57 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Ironically me being 172 owner I actually learn how to fly in PA28 Archer. Did my first solo in Cruiser! What I love about older Piper they are pretty much standard. All have same standard manual flaps, gauges layout in the same place and so on. Jumping from one model to another is easy. However, I'm not talking about even more older PA28 which had rudder trim on the roof or newer that have overhead panel !

Did you ever fly a Piper Tomahawk?

What I find neat is that the Arrow (this Arrow III) has, as you say, a lot of the same bits as the Tommy -- parking brake -- same -- flaps -- pretty close to the same -- gauge setup -- close to the same -- switches -- very close.

I'm sorta waiting for the Arrow IV for the T-tail goodness.   I hope the turbo modelling is halfway decent in this sim.

3 minutes ago, Manny said:

All three died. Witness gave their account of what he was doing.

Whoa, that's horrible! 

17 minutes ago, Mace said:

Did you ever fly a Piper Tomahawk?

What I find neat is that the Arrow (this Arrow III) has, as you say, a lot of the same bits as the Tommy -- parking brake -- same -- flaps -- pretty close to the same -- gauge setup -- close to the same -- switches -- very close.

I'm sorta waiting for the Arrow IV for the T-tail goodness.   I hope the turbo modelling is halfway decent in this sim.

Unfortunately no. Among Piper I have only flown PA28-140/151/161/181, PA28RT-201, PA28R-180, PA28R201T, PA-24-250, PA-32-300R and PA44-180

2 hours ago, SAS443 said:

That's odd.

Us in the beta team could always use more knowledge. I have never flown the arrow, so I focus more on the carry over items/systems from the Warrior-line.

It's not! Some devs have their team and it is what it is.

I have more than 200 hours in Arrows. I did the training for my Commercial Certificate & initial CFI in an Arrow at KBKV and I might know the developer.

I've never asked to give them my opinion. But a YTber with XXX number of followers, that knows nothing about the airplane (one did not even know how to properly start the sim) gets a free copy to test and share. LOL!

I'm ok with all of it. I just wish that the plane was a little more affordable so that all simmers can enjoy it.

4 minutes ago, DJJose said:

It's not! Some devs have their team and it is what it is.

I have more than 200 hours in Arrows. I did the training for my Commercial Certificate & initial CFI in an Arrow at KBKV and I might know the developer.

I've never asked to give them my opinion. But a YTber with XXX number of followers, that knows nothing about the airplane (one did not even know how to properly start the sim) gets a free copy to test and share. LOL!

I'm ok with all of it. I just wish that the plane was a little more affordable so that all simmers can enjoy it.

Yes my friend tubers beat us! LOL

23 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Unfortunately no. Among Piper I have only flown PA28-140/151/161/181, PA28RT-201, PA28R-180, PA28R201T, PA-24-250, PA-32-300R and PA44-180

Only! LOL!

I sat in a PA-28 once. It was a white one with a red stripe!