21 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said:

It also depends on what you consider "study level". IMO, if an aircraft behaves close to the real thing it's study level, regardless of how many knobs and switches there are in the aircraft. Too bad MSFS missed the opportunity to do a real 'walk around', or simulate damage and wear because of abuse. Missing items on the checklist should have (optionally) consequences.

Short answer - any A2A aircraft. But in general, everything that you mentioned, not just flight dynamics, those are pretty low on the list actually.

Not a GA but you mention anything in between so I would strongly suggest the CJ4 Citation Mod from WorkingTitle. They have managed to simulate the proline 21 avionics to a very good degree on top of the change made to the FDE.

Maybe not study level but midcore for sure.

And in terms of time you just download the mod and copy paste in your community folder take less time than entering your CB card to buy a payware and then registration number to activate your payware addon.

So give it a go it even come with a short manual.

Study Level is one of those flight simmer-isms which doesn't really mean much as a firm definition. Frankly it's more of a marketing term than anything else. Even one of those paper 2D cockpit posters you can buy to become familiar with a cockpit control layout is 'study level' if you use it to study, so anything with a fairly accurate VC is even moreso since it is three dimensional, regardless of whether the switches move or not. 

However, I would tend to think most people who take their flight sims fairly seriously would regard the term to mean that the plane does a reasonably accurate job of replicating how the real thing performs, that most if not all of the switches 'work' and actually do simulate event occurring which may have consequences on how the aeroplane performs, and that those switch movements may possibly interact with other systems to have a bearing on matters. Additionally, if that thing can be damaged or suffer reduced performance through misuse, this too would be something I suspect most people would want. If it can realistically replicate a good many failures accurately, so much the better.

If this is a reasonably close, albeit still pretty loose - definition of the term, then the first payware GA aeroplane likely to hit those criteria in terms of release date and features, is the forthcoming Just Flight PA-28, which appears to be getting very close to going on sale, since it has this stuff:

Whether it will have all the wear and tear features of the previous FSW and P3D version is another matter though. I guess we'll see. I suppose it depends on whether the sim supports those things, and how privy JF are to what the new SDK offers.

Beyond this, there is of course the levels that A2A seem to take things to most of the time, where their sim aeroplanes do things such as have the electrical power gauges fluctuate, accurately replicating how they do in the real aeroplane when certain things are turned on and off, and have the panels vibrate when you hit certain power settings on the engine like the real things will sometimes do. How useful that sort of thing is in terms of study is up to the individual, but these kind of details are what make A2A's efforts sit in the top drawer and are part of why their development times tend to be fairly long. So that's one of those 'good things come to those who wait' kind of deals. Yes you'll get a sort of 'study sim' (TM) aeroplane fairly soon with that JF PA-28, but for one which really takes things to obsessively accurate levels of detail, you'll be waiting a bit longer.

This is not to say there aren't others in the high-end game either - MILVIZ for example - but historically they're all playing second fiddle to A2A when it comes to really going for it on those kind of details. Nevertheless, I think the release of JF's PA-28 will be a bit of a benchmark for 'study-ish' GA aeroplanes which don't cost an arm and a leg.

46 minutes ago, Chock said:

wear and tear features

This is all I want, if someone added it to the default planes I’d be chuffed. 

https://github.com/TheFrett/msfs_g36_project
 

This is pretty good. I use this. 

4 hours ago, Milviz said:

Yes....

That's it! The king air is coming!

I really miss it here

5 hours ago, ckyliu said:

@omarsmak30 A nice overview but none of those are GA.

 

Well in OP mentioned "or airliners and anything in between for that matter", hence didn't hurt to give that overview 🙂  

Whoops, my bad for not reading the post properly and just using the topic heading!

1 hour ago, omarsmak30 said:

Well in OP mentioned "or airliners and anything in between for that matter", hence didn't hurt to give that overview 🙂  

 

59 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

Whoops, my bad for not reading the post properly and just using the topic heading!

Well, the title says GA because I prefer flying smaller airplanes (although I have many hours in all the types) but I'd settle for anything really so, that's why I'm interested also in airliners and anything in between. 🙂 

6 hours ago, Milviz said:

Yes....

C-310....bring it!!  Miss flying that thing.....

Study level GA sounds awkward because there are not so many systems. What would make a C152 or a Cub study level?

53 minutes ago, kiki said:

Study level GA sounds awkward because there are not so many systems. What would make a C152 or a Cub study level?

Removing Cntrl-+E engine starts for a start 🙂 

1 hour ago, kiki said:

Study level GA sounds awkward because there are not so many systems. What would make a C152 or a Cub study level?

Are you serious? Every aircraft that operates similar to their real world counterpart - if I can take a real manual and use it to operate an aircraft in the sim, I would consider it study level. A2A planes are good example. No need for hundreds of systems to be a study level.

Edited February 2, 20215 yr by Tomaz Drnovsek

Someone got it right....  (for our entry into "study level" in MSFS....  )

 

3 minutes ago, Milviz said:

Someone got it right....  (for our entry into "study level" in MSFS....  )

So the 310 isn't far away?

Edited February 2, 20215 yr by Naki18