March 26, 20215 yr To anyone who said piracy doesn't cost anything... WF Scenery Studio suspending future development projects following the release of Shanghai Pudong International. Quote The last straw happened when “a member of [the WF Scenery Studio] group saw Pudong [available for] pre-sale on Xianyu.” This was not an authorised reseller and as a result, this member of the team decided to quit. With the team unhappy with how rampant the piracy of their products has been, they have decided to stop the development of future airport products. https://fselite.net/news/wf-scenery-studio-suspending-future-development-projects-following-shanghai-pudong-international-release/ AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
March 26, 20215 yr Sounds more like a case of employee theft than piracy. Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
March 27, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, Chock said: Sounds more like a case of employee theft than piracy. Just as likely to be a beta tester. Their ZSPD scenery is close to being finished. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
March 27, 20215 yr It's released btw https://secure.simmarket.com/wf-scenery-studio-shanghai-pudong-international-airport-zspd-p3d4.5_p3d5.phtml I heard the news, I believed something internal is more likely than about the piracy. Hoang Le i7 13700k - Sapphire Nitro+ AMD RX 7900 XT - Asus TUF Z790 PLUS D4 - Gskill Trident 32GB DDR4-3600 LG 34GP63A-B Ultrawide - ASUS VG259QM MSFS2020
March 27, 20215 yr 50 minutes ago, Hoang said: It's released btw https://secure.simmarket.com/wf-scenery-studio-shanghai-pudong-international-airport-zspd-p3d4.5_p3d5.phtml Wow. This looks really good. I might have to pick this one up for some long hauls with PMDG T7.
March 27, 20215 yr Brought it. Another great airport made by WF Scenery. FPS are really good as well for such a large airport. Daniel
March 27, 20215 yr So why would anyone buy a product from a company that just declared that they are done? Mind-boggling business strategy there... Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 27, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, w6kd said: So why would anyone buy a product from a company that just declared that they are done? Mind-boggling business strategy there... They have some promises of continue updating this and previous product, and probably update compatible with MSFS. They just not going to make any new sceneries. And, probably, currently this is the only option for Pudong. Hoang Le i7 13700k - Sapphire Nitro+ AMD RX 7900 XT - Asus TUF Z790 PLUS D4 - Gskill Trident 32GB DDR4-3600 LG 34GP63A-B Ultrawide - ASUS VG259QM MSFS2020
March 27, 20215 yr 29 minutes ago, Hoang said: They have some promises of continue updating this and previous product, and probably update compatible with MSFS. They just not going to make any new sceneries. And, probably, currently this is the only option for Pudong. I would be cautious by any company that is having internal issues and make promises they may not keep later on. Remember SunSkyJet who basically disappeared after everyone donated to the KDTW. He came out back in July on why he was out of touch and was moving forward only to be not heard from again. While I have purchased a few of WF scenery products I’m going to stick to major scenery developers. It’s a shame because their Hong Kong scenery is outstanding. Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
March 27, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, w6kd said: So why would anyone buy a product from a company that just declared that they are done? Of course piracy is a huge problem for ALL developers. Part of life for anyone creating intellectual property is dealing with it. No discussion about it. Having said that, something tells me this may also be part of a very good tactics of hoping to get a lot of customers by telling them 'Look, we are leaving!'. I guess sales will go up to 'save a developer from leaving' and they may miraculously change their mind. Which I wish to them, of course, as they seem to create really nice airports. Flying in Europe almost exclusively, I won't be buying it. But I admit it definitely looks good, just like their other Asian sceneries, especially VHHH.
March 27, 20215 yr What makes some of you think that this is more a case of "employee theft" than "piracy"? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
March 27, 20215 yr 6 hours ago, pommy80 said: Brought it. Another great airport made by WF Scenery. FPS are really good as well for such a large airport. How's the performance of this scenery?
March 27, 20215 yr Statement from WFSS themselves on FB: Hey Guys, Shanghai Pudong International Airport (IATA PVG, ICAO ZSPD) is released. In the past two days. We have received many messages asking if we quit. For this, we take this opportunity to give a reply. We did not quit. We will update some of the previous airports. As known. We decided to stop the development of new airports that have never been developed. And complained about piracy by the way. We didn't expect this to cause such a response. Thanks a lot for supporting us! We next will upgrade ZBAA,ZSSS etc... Maybe MSFS after that. Kind Regards, Peter
March 27, 20215 yr I got their ZSPD and really like it. Performance is good for me, even with Samscene's Shanghai City in the background. Very nice overall! Though, is it really necessary to second-guess the motives for their decision? It's disheartening to me that people feel the need to come up with ideas about some ulterior motives or hidden agenda. For one because it paints the developers as dishonest, and I don't think anybody here has a reason to assume that...? Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
March 27, 20215 yr 6 hours ago, Christopher Low said: What makes some of you think that this is more a case of "employee theft" than "piracy"? The fact that a not yet released scenery showed up for sale on a Chinese piracy website says that someone on the Beta team had no problem stealing the scenery for their own gain. Nick Running
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