Just now, hansb57 said:

Your "wow" indicates 5 or 10% increase in FPS is not substantial. I think it is. 

Got it. It may be for the single user. But compared to the general performance other AAA games have its just ridiculus.

The 11th gen series of Intel CPU's deserves boycott. 14nm & huge power consumption, makes me so happy I got a 5600x.

To start, the original linked article was stolen without attribution from The Verge

That said, on a completely different note...

Anyone else encouraged that sites like Toms Hardware, Verge, and others are starting to use MSFS as a benchmark? Despite the fraught relationship that many here seem to have with it, Microsoft Flight Simulator as a sim, game, and franchise is undoubtedly front-and-center in the gaming public's eye. This bodes well across many fronts, including hardware engineering which just might take notice and make some tweaks in future designs. (One can hope!)

I'm on a 4+ year old rig right now and happy as a clam. Glad to see that when I'm ready to make hardware changes, things will have changed enough to make a marked impact on my experience.

-Greg

44 minutes ago, greggerm said:

To start, the original linked article was stolen without attribution from The Verge

That said, on a completely different note...

Anyone else encouraged that sites like Toms Hardware, Verge, and others are starting to use MSFS as a benchmark? Despite the fraught relationship that many here seem to have with it, Microsoft Flight Simulator as a sim, game, and franchise is undoubtedly front-and-center in the gaming public's eye. This bodes well across many fronts, including hardware engineering which just might take notice and make some tweaks in future designs. (One can hope!)

I'm on a 4+ year old rig right now and happy as a clam. Glad to see that when I'm ready to make hardware changes, things will have changed enough to make a marked impact on my experience.

-Greg

 

The Verge i hold in very low regard as a review or PC authority. (as demonstrated with the article written regarding 20% increase in flightsim among other egregious things they have done ) . Toms is fine but im sorry unfortunately for the average user this was a very misleading article with an aim in my opinion to cover up how bad the chip 11900K is.   MSFS was just the subject game in the article.

Unless you cant get a 5900x or 5800x at msrp (And i got mine at msrp) Who in their right mind would buy this ?  If i was going intel i would get the 10900k without even thinking about it.

 

Edited March 31, 20215 yr by Bobsk8

 

at least looks like 11900K  is the best cpu for MSFS2020 right now. 

I am thinking to upgrade my 8700K, and the question is : 11900k or 5900X?

Even that i am an Intel guy i am thinking when MSFS will turn to DX12 possibly 5900X will work better ( more cores)

 

 

 

 

https://www.theverge.com/22357949/intel-core-i9-11900k-review

 

14 hours ago, Seth2021 said:

Even that i am an Intel guy i am thinking when MSFS will turn to DX12 possibly 5900X will work better ( more cores)

With a reasonable margin of error, the performance in MSFS is basically the same in the video you posted.  There are performance regressions in other games with the 11900K, and many other games in which the 5900X is faster.  Also the 5900X has more cores at the same cost.

3 hours ago, marsman2020 said:

With a reasonable margin of error, the performance in MSFS is basically the same in the video you posted.  There are performance regressions in other games with the 11900K, and many other games in which the 5900X is faster.  Also the 5900X has more cores at the same cost.

Ryzen 5900X is clearly the winner, and taking into account that the 11th series is available only at scalpers prices for now, also the 5800X is a better option.

When the 11900K will be available at normal price and possibly after a 10% cut from Intel, under 500 $ it may become a good upgrade for users who have already a Z490 system with a 10700K or less. Not many people indeed, and I hope that scalpers end up losing their money this time!

For 10900K users it's a "meh"... two less cores that the 10900K can use to compensate the gap in productivity software and maybe in DX12 titles. We will see in the next months.

Edited April 2, 20215 yr by MrFuzzy

After my recent 5900x rig purchase and how fast and cool it runs no more Intel for me.

cheers

bs

I suspect the 5800x, 5900x and 11900k will all perform within a few FPS in MSFS (with the same GPU). I would suggest choosing based on availability and price. 

Although personally, I didn’t feel Intel’s efforts this gen were worthy of my hard earned money, so I opted for a 5800x which also happened to be easy to get and reasonably priced. 

Edited April 2, 20215 yr by Virtual-Chris

I'd like to upgrade my 3950X to a 5950X, but between availability being terrible and moving across the country for work, and buying a house, I'm probably stuck for a while.  A 5900X might also be a reasonable upgrade, the multicore performance is about the same but single core is a lot higher...