Bob....Bob...you are a man among men. You could have kept quiet about it and those you had those arguments with, probably would have forgotten about it but your integrity is out in full force. Thank you for this. At least now more people might want to look at their hardware instead of just blaming the sim.

Bob I was one of the people that tried very hard to help you and all i got was.....well never mind.

After what you have just said, I say, it takes a real man to stand up and say i was wrong and apologize. I respec you for doing so. 

I am also very happy for you and hope all your problems are now in the past. Enjoy MSFS and your DC-6 🙂

Happy that your pc is working.

I have always built my own desktops from scratch, selecting individual components that are likely to work well together. One often underrated item is the PSU. It is probably the least glamorous item in your PC case, yet it is such a critical component. Any instability in the PSU will cause all sorts of frustration that can sometimes appear to be caused by other components or software, making problem solving a nightmare.

I went to an extreme and run a Corsair HX 1050 PSU. It is just ticking over, even at full load. A quality UPS between it and the wall socket further ensures a smooth and stable power supply. A PC is nothing but a complex electrical device.

 When I do eventually upgrade, the PSU will be finding a home in my new box. Money well spent. The fact that my now ageing PC runs MSFS so well and without CTD’s is in no small part thanks to a rock solid and stable power supply.

Edited June 28, 20214 yr by RaptyrOne

Hey old friend, We've all been there done that. Just eat some crow and go on a "merry" way. Water under the bridge. (just kinda stash it away for future reference) Every day is a new one.😄

Edited June 28, 20214 yr by jimcarrel

Congratulations on finally figuring out what was causing the numerous CTDs.  Now have fun flying around like a madman and make sure to follow all regulations.  Hehehe...

5 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I got the PC back, hooked it up, and started flyinging MSFS 2020 . I tried different aircraft, different regions, different airports, and last week I got the PMDG DC6 and I have about 20+ hours with that aircraft.  Not one CTD, no driver timeouts, MSFS is now as solid as a rock. All along it was either the GPU or the PSU, and I strongly suspect that the AMD GPU and MSFS2020 didn't work well together. 

What are you spec's now? I'm curious!

6 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Geeez Bob, you should be ashamed ... I thought everyone had this setup and used it for PC diagnostics when they CTD 😉

 

What the heck are you up to Rob 🙂 

6 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Geeez Bob, you should be ashamed ... I thought everyone had this setup and used it for PC diagnostics when they CTD 😉

If I made a dollar from every time someone told me they have no add-ons and it's the fault of the sim, I could own a Learjet 75 Liberty.  Acceptance is hard and I think we've all been there and guilty as charged.

Cheers, Rob.

Almost everything you show in that photo I have used for many years. Wasn't any help this time. 

Glad your sorted Bob, sounds like a good bunch of guys at your PC shop.

8 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Building flight modules for use with MSFS, P3D, XP that I hope to eventually sell ... top quality with no bleed backlighting and dimmers.  Also building a silent chiller unit for PCs (external) that I again hope to sell.  I figure if folks have $3500 to burn on a single GPU, I can give them sub-ambient silent cooling for less.

Cheers, Rob.

Cool keeps Us posted - flight module care to elaborate what that is 

I'm glad it worked out for you Bob.

Power supplies can be tricky.  I remember one customer that had intermittent issues on just one PC out of several but only at certain times of day.  After months of chasing down possible causes it turned out the PSU in the problem PC was fine normally but whenever the thermostat in the heater in the room next door kicked in or out the high powered but cheapish PSU in this particular PC crashed out. Took a lot to track down. Generally speaking a well designed quality PSU is a better bet than a possibly higher powered but cheaply made one.

As for AMD GPUs, they do have more driver issues than Nvidia, though generally they are not hard to sort out given a bit of time. Which means for home use, where an afternoon spent messing with drivers on your new GPU is neither here nor there they are often a good option. In an enterprise scenario where downtime can cost thousands or tens of thousands of dollars per hour (or potentially millions if a big contract falls through) there is often a tendency to avoid AMD unless the CEO happens to also be a gamer and a fan.

 

Edited June 29, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

I admire people that apologise when they were wrong, happy flying friend

 

Wayne

Hi Bob,

Glad to hear your problems are over and finally can enjoy MSFS. Computer issues, whether they be hard- or software, are often hard to troubleshoot. Seems you were lucky to have those driver timeouts, otherwise you might still be stabbing in the dark at the issue.

A bad PSU can cause lots of issues with other components but I have never had any luck with AMD / ATI GPU's either.