I upgraded from my GForce 1060  6 GB to a RTX 3060 12 GB videocard, which is supposed to almost double its performance. My results are really dissapointing, as I didnt experience any improvement, but instead also a slightly worse FPM rate of about 5%.-

I tried with the last Nvidia driver using the same settings as before.-

The only diference is that the Developer performance window,  shows no more the "limited by GPU" leyend which was common before, red sectors at the GPU line are completely gone, and now only shows "limited by main thread" constantly.-

The system memory usage is not more than 70% (I have 24 GB RAM) and the video memory usage doesnt exceed 6 Gb. -

I use medium to high graphic settings at MSFS.

My CPU is an i7 990X overclocked to 4,5 Ghz (old but reliable),- So I am very surprised and angry for spending about $ 900 for nothing.-

Any opinions  ?

Thanks

 

9 minutes ago, solito said:

I upgraded from my GForce 1060  6 GB to a RTX 3060 12 GB videocard, which is supposed to almost double its performance. My results are really dissapointing, as I didnt experience any improvement, but instead also a slightly worse FPM rate of about 5%.-

I tried with the last Nvidia driver using the same settings as before.-

The only diference is that the Developer performance window,  shows no more the "limited by GPU" leyend which was common before, red sectors at the GPU line are completely gone, and now only shows "limited by main thread" constantly.-

The system memory usage is not more than 70% (I have 24 GB RAM) and the video memory usage doesnt exceed 6 Gb. -

I use medium to high graphic settings at MSFS.

My CPU is an i7 990X overclocked to 4,5 Ghz (old but reliable),- So I am very surprised and angry for spending about $ 900 for nothing.-

Any opinions  ?

Thanks

 

you are limited by your CPU. It's really old. It's all about IPC. Your GPU is actually too good for your CPU. So do an upgrade for your CPU to an i9 10900K or I7-10700K and you will see the difference.

My 3060 TI is doing a stellar job in my rig.  The 5900X 12 core never gets above 20%.

Cheers

bs

Edited June 30, 20214 yr by bean_sprout

it is a 6 core 12 thread processor so should handle the game OK at medium/high with the right settings though 4.5 GHz on an old processor like that is more like 3.0 Ghz on a current generation..

You need to reduce the CPU load in game. Start by dropping the LOD settings to 80 and setting the glass cockpit refresh rate to medium and turning off AI traffic and work up or down from there.  You may also want to consider INCREASING some of the GPU intensive settings to balance the load better.

Edited June 30, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

14 minutes ago, solito said:

My CPU is an i7 990X overclocked to 4,5 Ghz (old but reliable),- So I am very surprised and angry for spending about $ 900 for nothing.-

I agree with the others that your cpu is now the issue.

That said, first thing I would do is use DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) to remove every last bit of the old driver.  Then I'd install new vid driver.  You'll still be cpu-bound but at least then you can rule out any display driver issues from leftovers.

I'm a little surprised you FOUND a 3-series GPU.  The only ones I've found were astronomically priced, and I'm not paying 2 grand for a 3090.  I mean I'm a hardware nut but there is a limit.

Yeah, I am disappointed that MSFS is so CPU intensive I was hoping more of the load could be put on the graphics card but the curse of flight sims continues. Want good frames get a better processor.  I thought i7 9700KF and 2070 super this thing is going to rip.... nope.  it's just good enough.

The GPU has to be paired to a CPU that can compliment it or it will stifle it. The i7 990X definitely was a workhorse but technology moves quickly. The latest cheapest 10th Gen i3 (quad core) is actually faster than the i7 990X now. Once you upgrade your CPU (with as high IPC as possible), you will on then really see the fruits of the 3060 unfortunately.

Edited June 30, 20214 yr by johnnycaptain

27 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

My 3060 TI is doing a stellar job in my rig. 

I have considered a 3060 12 GB but what is more influential on MSFS?  the speed of a 3080 10 GB (standard, not TI) or the extra memory of the 3060 12 GB? My current card is a GTX 1070 TI 8 GB.

Edited June 30, 20214 yr by fppilot

It really doesn't matter either way.  ASOBO is optimizing the sim (coming next month, btw).  Everyone is limited right now regardless of CPU or GPU.

I am aware about my CPU bottleneck, but I expected at least some slight better performance instead of something worse as I got.

I am really surprised

Extra VRAM only helps if it is being used.. otherwise it is just along for the ride..

10 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Extra VRAM only helps if it is being used.. otherwise it is just along for the ride..

But more vram allows higher graphics settings in the sim, right?

27 minutes ago, solito said:

I am aware about my CPU bottleneck, but I expected at least some slight better performance instead of something worse as I got.

I am really surprised

The minimum CPU config for MSFS is the i5-4460.

Your CPU, even with higher core number is still old and missing a lot of improvement and new instruction set.

A lot of CTD on the CRJ are caused because of configs bellow the minimal, missing necessary elements

 

PS : 900$ for a single 3060RTX, that's a lot of money 😨

 

Edited June 30, 20214 yr by bendead

21 minutes ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

It really doesn't matter either way.  ASOBO is optimizing the sim (coming next month, btw).  Everyone is limited right now regardless of CPU or GPU.

Good news!

1 hour ago, solito said:

I am aware about my CPU bottleneck, but I expected at least some slight better performance instead of something worse as I got.

I am really surprised

Optimum performance is when both aspects are balanced. 

Which is why INCREASING your GPU intensive settings, quite counterintuitively, may help.  At present the GPU is idling waiting for CPU that is getting swamped.

Try and lower CPU intensive things like LOD and increasing GPU intensive settings so that you end up with the game flipping between limited by GPU and limited by main thread.

You may also want to try render scaling at 90% as it makes minimal difference t visuals but can give you some headroom.