June 30, 20214 yr His cpu doesn't even meet system requirements for the rtx 3060. An upgrade is the only way forward. Edited June 30, 20214 yr by fogboundturtle https://fsprocedures.com Your home for all flight simulator related checklist.
June 30, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said: Not sure I understand that, can you expand and provide the settings you are using? From the testing I've done MSFS very similar to other flight sims in terms of CPU to GPU balance and can be managed ... the only performance issues I've encountered in terms of "pauses" is the loading of Photogrammetry (once cached to local area that smooths out), otherwise MSFS has been a very good performance experience even on my older Dev PC as well as my main FS PC. Cheers, Rob. That was kind of a loaded response. While MSFS runs good on low end systems, the sim itself is not actually optimized...or at least to where ASOBO wants it. Right now if you have high end gear like I do, there's only so much you can do. So yes, there's things you can still do, but also, only so much you can do until they make more optimizations. I'm running high for my settings with RS at 100 and terrain (I can't remember) at 150, I think? I'd have to check again. Now, if you're really low end, like it seems the poster is, then it's probably time for an upgrade no matter what. And yes, your gear needs to match up. There's no sense having a 3090 on a 10 year old CPU probably if you don't have the bandwidth to support it. Also, keep in mind if you're using the FBW and WT stuff, they're still actively working on it. Those are not great benchmarks ATM. I can get 100fps in a round dials default Cessna out in the country somewhere, but when I get near the city or airport environment it drops to around 40 or 50...which is normal behavior right now. Jeff D. Nielsen (KMCI) https://www.twitch.tv/pilotskcx https://discord.io/MaxDutyDay VENGEANCE a8200 Gaming PC: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, GeForce RTX 5080, 64GB DDR5, 4TB (2TB/2TB) M.2 SSD, Win11 Pro
June 30, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, solito said: My CPU is an i7 990X overclocked to 4,5 Ghz (old but reliable),- So I am very surprised and angry for spending about $ 900 for nothing.- Any opinions ? Thanks Building a whole new rig might not be what you want to hear given the times but if you found a 3060 for ONLY $900 you are over half way there. You will benefit greatly from something like a i7-10700k or even a i5-10600K ASUS Prime Z490-A / i7-10700K / RTX 4080 / G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB / Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic case
June 30, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Todd2 said: Good news! If it gets to true only !! Not realy shure about that but we will see.. cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
June 30, 20214 yr Hello, I am kind of having the same problem with my rig, in particular when playing the DC6. I am running an i5 6600K at 4ghz 16go ram and GTX1070, all SSDs, 1920 x 1200 I struggle to keep my 30fps ( at which my FPS are limited) when flying the DC6. With others aircrafts, I achieve 30fps in most scenarios being GPU limited but with DC6 I am Main thread limited. Which seems weird to me as my proc seems not running 100% at all. I am mostly high settings except ultra for terrain level data and texture resolution. What settings could I lower to unload my CPU a bit ? Best regards, Pierre
June 30, 20214 yr This is the problem with expectations, no? I am sorry for the topic starter, but some simple tests taking less than 5 mins BEFORE buying a new GPU could have saved him some money and some disappointment. I always wonder why so many people do not run such tests or at least ask in forums BEFORE they buy things and then instead complain AFTERWARDS... Well, learning the hard way obviously... Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
June 30, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Pochi said: What settings could I lower to unload my CPU a bit ? Best regards, Pierre The two LOD settings and the glass cockpit refresh rate are a good start.
June 30, 20214 yr As the question is thoroughly answered, I would just like to add that around 60 years ago, my English teacher taught me that "Dish of Apples" is a good way to remember how to spell disappointed. 🙂
June 30, 20214 yr I was in the same shoes recently, I had an i76700K which was the top of the heap CPU just 3-4 years ago, upgraded to a 2080 Super and was no real difference over a 2060 super. Upgraded the CPU to a Ryzen 3600 and also very importantly the RAM to a 3200mhz 32GB pack running at 3600mhz and also very important the the motherboard to a Pro series one and now I am looking at upgrading the GPU once again as its now causing the bottleneck being the 2080 Super running at 100% constantly and the little 8GB RAM it has is just not enough. Still I am averaging 30fps on 4K near ultra. You can pair your CPU and GPU quite well here: https://pc-builds.com/calculator/ These days definitely go for a Ryzen CPU above Intel. Much better value and performance for the money and easily overclocked. Edited June 30, 20214 yr by Bandyka Simming since FS 98. MSFS rig - Ryzen 3600 4.2Ghz - 32GB RAM 3600Mhz - Motherboard MSI 570 A Pro - RTX 2080 Ti -all overclocked - 2xNVME storage. PSU Corsair HX850i platinum. Average 30Fps on 4K ultra.
June 30, 20214 yr Author Due to my CPU bottleneck related to my new more capable GPU, I read the advice about reducing the CPU intensive MSFS settings and increase the GPU settings. Which are those ? Thanks
June 30, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Jeff Nielsen said: It really doesn't matter either way. ASOBO is optimizing the sim (coming next month, btw). Everyone is limited right now regardless of CPU or GPU. I am very hopeful about this. My old 6700k OC @ 4.6gHz coupled with a 1080Ti has allowed me to survive this mining disaster, running 4K. I keep looking for a 3090 at retail… hope springs eternal. This may buy me another few months… fingers x’ed! C Best- Carl Avari-Cooper
June 30, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, cavaricooper said: I am very hopeful about this. My old 6700k OC @ 4.6gHz coupled with a 1080Ti has allowed me to survive this mining disaster, running 4K. I keep looking for a 3090 at retail… hope springs eternal. This may buy me another few months… fingers x’ed! C Don't hold your breath I say, based on the past 20 years of experience, optimisation has never resulted in significant gains on older hardware however surely it will improve things somewhat. UNLESS they introduce DLSS and Ray Tracing now that would be a game changer. Chances are likely very low though. Edited June 30, 20214 yr by Bandyka Simming since FS 98. MSFS rig - Ryzen 3600 4.2Ghz - 32GB RAM 3600Mhz - Motherboard MSI 570 A Pro - RTX 2080 Ti -all overclocked - 2xNVME storage. PSU Corsair HX850i platinum. Average 30Fps on 4K ultra.
June 30, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, solito said: Due to my CPU bottleneck related to my new more capable GPU, I read the advice about reducing the CPU intensive MSFS settings and increase the GPU settings. Which are those ? Thanks Start by reading Glenn's replies to you. Lock FPS to 30 for a start. Dont run unlimited The top LOD is the biggest hit on CPU set that no more than 100 The other LOD is not so bigger hit but set that also to 100. glass cockpit refresh rate LOW AI Traffic OFF Online Traffic OFF Muti player stuff OFF Also Locking your FPS will at some point drop work from you CPU, as it tips over from working to give the FPS you set to, it becoming an easy amount for the CPU to calulate. Dont run unlimited. Set to 10 FPS and see what I mean. Then work up to see where your tiping point is with your settings. Now start adding in Render Scale over 100 ( the big GPU killer..or not) till you see in DEV MODE "bound my main thread" and "bound my GPU" flashing almost as one. Then you have pushed the right amount of work from your CPU to your GPU. But you could also up your setting to ultra and see if your FPS drop much then do as above. Its hard to find the perfect balance but only you can do that. This is what your aiming for. No core peged to 100% all running balanced. Edited June 30, 20214 yr by Nyxx David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
June 30, 20214 yr I always wonder when I see posts like this as I’m thrilled with the performance I’m getting with my 6700K, 1070Ti and 32 gig of 2400 memory. 37-40 FPS mostly, very smooth including around and within the LA basin. I couldn’t ask for more. Rendering at 90 with a combo of mostly high, some ultra, some medium settings. If I could only get my paws on a 3070(Ti)I’d be thrilled.
June 30, 20214 yr 12 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said: Optimum performance is when both aspects are balanced. Which is why INCREASING your GPU intensive settings, quite counterintuitively, may help. At present the GPU is idling waiting for CPU that is getting swamped. Try and lower CPU intensive things like LOD and increasing GPU intensive settings so that you end up with the game flipping between limited by GPU and limited by main thread. You may also want to try render scaling at 90% as it makes minimal difference t visuals but can give you some headroom. What are GPU intensive settings?
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