19 hours ago, cobalt said:

How can there be a perceptible difference between two perfect flights? Or two perfect anythings, for that matter? The phrase "a distinction without a difference" comes to mind here!

As long as you're happy, that's all that matters.  But for me, the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS is very noticeable, especially when I do any kind of camera panning or use the drone. Everyone needs to find their happy place 🙂

Edited July 5, 20214 yr by Virtual-Chris

I certainly am not trying to persuade anyone to play at any FPS other than what they want to play at, but I encourage players to experience 60 FPS or higher if they can.  They might like it.

I think why 30 is good for some people is that they might be playing on a TV and not a low latency PC monitor.  The TV may have some smoothing built in or the high latency may induce just the right amount of blurriness to create a smoother experience.

Edited July 6, 20214 yr by Blueline308

60fps > 30fps but most of us can’t get there in MSFS. I am happy to get 30 with my 8 year old setup. 

2 hours ago, Blueline308 said:

I certainly am not trying to persuade anyone to play at any FPS other than what they want to play at, but I encourage players to experience 60 FPS or higher if they can.  They might like it.

I think why 30 is good for some people is that they might be playing on a TV and not a low latency PC monitor.  The TV may have some smoothing built in or the high latency may induce just the right amount of blurriness to create a smoother experience.

I have a high resolution 1200 x1600 monitor and, as I said earlier, typically have smooth flight at locked 30 FPS. If I unlock it I often see higher FPS -- up to 60 -- but don't see any difference in performance from 30, which is why I keep it locked at 30. Why wouldn't I?

25 minutes ago, cobalt said:

Why wouldn't I?

Hey, it's your game play how you wish.  I'm not suggesting otherwise.

Somehow I think motion picture cameras produced very smooth images 2 centuries ago... 1899.... Normandy, France !

 

Well, that video was originally 15 fps. It's been upscaled to 60. Still a great watch, mind!

1 hour ago, cobalt said:

I have a high resolution 1200 x1600 monitor 

Pure curiosity, you play in portrait mode ? 

1 hour ago, Fielder said:

Somehow I think motion picture cameras produced very smooth images 2 centuries ago... 1899.... Normandy, France !

You think wrong, this movie is heavily doctored by AI. The original is 15 fps (very choppy) and 240p not 4k. No color, no sound either.

^obviously, you are correct in all that.

However, it is also very true that old unrestored movies look choppy mostly because they are edited on machinery that runs with more frames per second than the original footage. And to synchronize blank frames must be inserted. Making what originally looked smooth in theaters look choppy to modern audiences watching the same scenes.

 

This phenomenon is always covered in books and courses on vintage movie appreciation. They caution to ignore the choppiness because it wasn't like that originally. Choppiness was not an issue with silent movies during their heyday and the frame rates were at 16 fps standard for most of those decades. Modern theater film, however, ran at 24 fps from say 1930 and still does run at that speed today. 24 adds some perceived smoothness but not very much, compared to  long time olds standard of 16 fps.

56 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

Pure curiosity, you play in portrait mode ? 

Even if it's 1600 x 1200, that is a very strange resolution to use in 2021. 

1 hour ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

Even if it's 1600 x 1200, that is a very strange resolution to use in 2021. 

I have seen home cockpit using three portrait mode monitors side by side. It gets you the view outside and the view of the instruments together. 

1 hour ago, Fielder said:

However, it is also very true that old unrestored movies look choppy mostly because they are edited on machinery that runs with more frames per second than the original footage.  

True but, as good as we, the French, are, Méliès or the Lumière brothers didn't invent 4K/60 fps color sonorized movies 122 years ago 🤣. The movie is interesting in many ways, it vividly recreates the life of good people long gone but it also shows the tremendous potential of AI to fake, a major issue in the decades to come. Stalin and Mao's photographers editing out from photos disgraced (and shot) opponents were merry amateurs. 

5 hours ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

Even if it's 1600 x 1200, that is a very strange resolution to use in 2021. 

Correction, I should have said 1920 x 1080. Blame it on gremlins.