On 7/3/2021 at 6:58 AM, Der Zeitgeist said:

My goal is getting a stable 60 FPS on my Ryzen 3900X paired with my RTX 3070 at 1440p. From what I've seen, this might be possible. 

Chasing FPS, rather than smoothness of flight, is a fallacy going back to FSX and FS9. In MSFS, locking at 30 FPS generally gives ideal performance, as attested by many here including me. Reminds me of the Horsepower Wars of the 1960s, when having a car with a higher horsepower engine than your neighbor -- even if the speeds achievable with the higher HPs were legal only on a race track --- served mainly as a boost to the (usually) male ego.

Edited July 4, 20214 yr by cobalt

I will do 2 ch...... at the same time (You all remember the line from Office Space insert it here) lol with all the new performance increase...lol

 

This performance will help all of us stuck in the gpu shortage but the prices are coming down (just like I predicted) lol - market will get flooded on ebay for used cards...

 

Edited July 4, 20214 yr by Skywolf

I might attempt to finally try flying an airliner like the A320 or 787.

Right now on my weak old system airliners are off limits because I get very poor performance. It will be interesting to see how it compares to the current build. 

1 hour ago, cobalt said:

Chasing FPS, rather than smoothness of flight, is a fallacy going back to FSX and FS9. In MSFS, locking at 30 FPS generally gives ideal performance, as attested by many here including me. Reminds me of the Horsepower Wars of the 1960s, when having a car with a higher horsepower engine than your neighbor -- even if the speeds achievable with the higher HPs were legal only on a race track --- served mainly as a boost to the (usually) male ego.

I think chasing FPS up to your display refresh rate (60 for most) is a worth while endeavor. The differences between 30 and 60FPS are noticeable, especially if you pan any view at all or spend any time looking at terrain closer than the horizon.

I was fortunate enough to achieve 60FPS at 4K (mostly ultra terrain and high graphics settings) before I stopped playing a few months back. I’m hoping if I come back to it a few months from now, that it’s feasible to maintain that performance with higher LOD (>200) and/or some live traffic. Flying around with empty skies and airports before was an immersion killer. 

If it came just in time to prevent my brain to buy a 3080ti monster, what I will do is to save that money for another month, until my brain comes again...

My wallet and my wife will be very happy as I wont have to invest in a new state of the art pc....I'm perfectly fine and quite happy with locked 30, I may increase eye candy a bit with the extra headroom.

2 hours ago, cobalt said:

Chasing FPS, rather than smoothness of flight, is a fallacy going back to FSX and FS9. In MSFS, locking at 30 FPS generally gives ideal performance, as attested by many here including me. Reminds me of the Horsepower Wars of the 1960s, when having a car with a higher horsepower engine than your neighbor -- even if the speeds achievable with the higher HPs were legal only on a race track --- served mainly as a boost to the (usually) male ego.

Apart from high-detail handcrafted airports and flying complex airplanes, I currently get 40-50 FPS in normal flight (limited by the CPU/main thread). So getting a stable 60 should be quite achievable after sim update 5. Going beyond 30 FPS gives you a much smoother experience, and this doesn't have anything to do with the male ego.

I'm simply looking to achieve a stable and smooth 30fps in all situations. If I get that, I will be extremely happy.

3 hours ago, cobalt said:

Chasing FPS, rather than smoothness of flight, is a fallacy going back to FSX and FS9. In MSFS, locking at 30 FPS generally gives ideal performance, as attested by many here including me. Reminds me of the Horsepower Wars of the 1960s, when having a car with a higher horsepower engine than your neighbor -- even if the speeds achievable with the higher HPs were legal only on a race track --- served mainly as a boost to the (usually) male ego.

Times have changed my friend, with a modern engine taking advantage of the latest tech, high frames should and ultimately will be proved to be achievable.

Asobo are dragging the FS genre and av community thinking into the 21st century - some clearly are still resisting though 😂

 

 I take your point, but if I am experiencing perfectly smooth flight at 30 FPS, how would higher FPS improve this? Is the goal to have the highest possible number appear in your FPS window? Or is it smooth flight? For me personally, I care only about the latter and don't give a hoot about the former.

2 minutes ago, cobalt said:

 I take your point, but if I am experiencing perfectly smooth flight at 30 FPS, how would higher FPS improve this? Is the goal to have the highest possible number appear in your FPS window? Or is it smooth flight? For me personally, I care only about the latter and don't give a hoot about the former.

Beautifully said.

1 minute ago, cobalt said:

 I take your point, but if I am experiencing perfectly smooth flight at 30 FPS, how would higher FPS improve this? Is the goal to have the highest possible number appear in your FPS window? Or is it smooth flight? For me personally, I care only about the latter and don't give a hoot about the former.

Try comparing perfectly smooth 30fps vs perfectly smooth 60fps...there is a perceptible difference (but the latter was unfathomable / unachievable before). I'm finally looking at jumping into VR with a bit more available headroom. 

Not just the performance increase, but the restored tree lod will hopefully allow me to get back to my UK tour north of Carlisle, and then on to the Nordics.

Gonna give msfs a rest until the update I think, and try and clear at least some of my backlog of unplayed Steam sale games!

1 hour ago, DylanM said:

Try comparing perfectly smooth 30fps vs perfectly smooth 60fps...there is a perceptible difference (but the latter was unfathomable / unachievable before). I'm finally looking at jumping into VR with a bit more available headroom. 

How can there be a perceptible difference between two perfect flights? Or two perfect anythings, for that matter? The phrase "a distinction without a difference" comes to mind here!

Hopefully run clouds on ultra. Right now have them on High. Also, enjoy better FPS in built up areas. Running a 5700XT, typically 30-40 FPS.