@Asobo

Now that we have a functional XBox release, would it be possible to temporarily stop added feature sets, and get the base sim accurate, functionally robust, stable and efficient please? This could be a bi-platform precept… serving both the simmers and gamers collectively.

Without histrionics, I’m simply asking for us to collaborate and patch this undeniably leaky ship, before continually hoisting more sail.

There is no way to avoid the fact that this release has caused severe disruption for some. That said, sometimes the road forward requires burning the boats. Both positions are valid.

Please examine your development process, and perhaps unlike other less historic franchises, please recognize there are individuals and development houses of substance who would only benefit the collective with timely and substantial involvement at each step. Please don’t misconstrue this as an attempt on my part to influence your planned goal posts… we are accepting of your foresight.

We are all on your magnificent journey together and thank you for your perseverance and possible indulgence.

Ta- Carl

 

PS- Gentle reader, if you are led to post here, please consider your points carefully, be respectful and stay on topic, lest we are relegated to locked status forthwith. Should we present a reasonable, articulate and temperate position, we shall be harder to ignore.

Edited July 31, 20214 yr by cavaricooper

Take a poll first IMO.

bs

15 minutes ago, cavaricooper said:

@Asobo

Now that we have a functional XBox release, would it be possible to temporarily stop added feature sets, and get the base sim accurate, functionally robust, stable and efficient please? This could be a bi-platform precept… serving both the simmers and gamers collectively.

Without histrionics, I’m simply asking for us to collaborate and patch this undeniably leaky ship, before continually hoisting more sail.

There is no way to avoid the fact that this release has caused severe disruption for some. That said, sometimes the road forward requires burning the boats. Both positions are valid.

Please examine your development process, and perhaps unlike other less historic franchises, please recognize there are individuals and development houses of substance who would only benefit the collective with timely and substantial involvement at each step. Please don’t misconstrue this as an attempt on my part to influence your planned goal posts… we are accepting of your foresight.

We are all on your magnificent journey together and thank you for your perseverance and possible indulgence.

Ta- Carl

 

PS- Gentle reader, if you are led to post here, please consider your points carefully, be respectful and stay on topic, lest we are relegated to locked status forthwith. Should we present a reasonable, articulate and temperate position, we shall be harder to ignore.

My vote: +1

1 hour ago, bean_sprout said:

Take a poll first IMO.

bs

Don't polls exist on the official forums to upvote already?

Although I do agree with you 100% but I don't think Avaim is the best place for this, this should happen in the official fourms so they can read it.

I appreciate your position but I really do think that @Asobo stops by here fairly regularly… AvSim is and has been “home” and so it is where I decided to pen my missive.

C

+1, since SU5 I can not use MSFS2020 anymore, first installation problems, then download problems and now neither MSFS2020 playing nor MSFS2020 reinstall possible, Opened a ticket but after an initial respond no further sign of life, MS store helpdesk has no idea for the download problem, In my opinion MSFS install and update procedure seems to be the root cause for lot of trouble for many users and should be corrected to a stable & functional software system...

The good news is - I have no CTD's now...

Best regards.

This letter despite the best intentions is directly in the wrong direction, Asobo is a video game studio contracted by Microsoft.

Who has the final word and decisions is Microsoft, I suggest you re-direct your efforts towards the right management department so your voice is heard by the correct entity.

S.

10 hours ago, cavaricooper said:

@Asobo

Now that we have a functional XBox release, would it be possible to temporarily stop added feature sets

No. Just no. 

Edit: Yeah, let's tell the WT guys to stop adding features to their G 1000 NXi. That sounds like a great idea! Lol. 

Edited August 1, 20214 yr by Ricardo41

I'm sure it's a push/pull relationship as most business relationships are. They both have a say in the process, but Microsoft may have more leverage, but it doesn't mean Microsoft controls Asobo like a robot (just saying, not meaning anything by it).

That said, I tend to think it's a worthy effort, but your chances of the right person reading it are not great, regardless where you send it. Even if they did, the chances are they don't understand the issues. 

Are the guys using the Xbox X/S console having the same problems? From looking at their Facebook group it appears they are not. It's my understanding updates are optimized for Xbox users. I don't think the PC user numbers are big enough to be taken seriously 

Good question...

They don't have much to compare it to, so 99% of them wouldn't know. You'd need a PC user to play on the XBOX and test it, but not just any PC user, would need to be someone that pays attention.

 

8 minutes ago, zmak said:

Are the guys using the Xbox X/S console having the same problems? From looking at their Facebook group it appears they are not. It's my understanding updates are optimized for Xbox users. I don't think the PC user numbers are big enough to be taken seriously 

I'm using it on both Xbox Series S and PC, and it is very noticeably smoother on the Xbox. I would go as far as to say there is no perceivable lag, dropped frames or stutters at all. Panning around is pure bliss.

Looks wise it's probably about level with my PC which has the settings on High. Maybe slightly sharper looking but I'm not sure if that's just the TV being slightly better than the monitor the PC is outputting to. Draw distance/LOD is about the same. Both are in 1920x1080.

8 minutes ago, zmak said:

Are the guys using the Xbox X/S console having the same problems? From looking at their Facebook group it appears they are not. It's my understanding updates are optimized for Xbox users. I don't think the PC user numbers are big enough to be taken seriously 

For PC  users, once we heard about the upcoming Xbox version, this has been a significant fear since then.  

A lot of us tried to stay positive about the improvements it would bring.  unfortunately, it has proved to be a disappointment for some of us - not all, but some here have lower expectations and ambition for the sim.

22 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

Good question...

They don't have much to compare it to, so 99% of them wouldn't know. You'd need a PC user to play on the XBOX and test it, but not just any PC user, would need to be someone that pays attention.

 

you can look at the vids for the series  x, looks very good, so not an issue there, besides you cannot set graphics there.

there is only hdr on/off. but i do wonder why the h the testing didtn find this????

i think most testing was done for the console, hurrying to put it into production..pc came 2nd.

but i also see here people using gefore xperience..wow, that never ever gives you optimal graphics.

stuff will be fixed eventually.

Edited August 1, 20214 yr by wim123