1 minute ago, overspeed3 said:

Sure hope the hotfix is not two steps forward, one step back -  AGAIN! 

Or it isn't 32 GBs.

 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

I wonder what they were thinking when they decided to hide the default directory like the Holy Grail? 

I agree. The Community folder buried that deep in its default location is virtually unexplainable given what it is designed to be.  I had immediate problems with path/filename length as early as the first WT G1000 mod.  I had to manually make adjustments to folder and filenames where I could.  That until the Addons Linker arrived on the crime scene.  And I am not certain that path/filename lengths are not still an issue in some cases via the shortcuts put into Community by the linker.  The sim it would seem would still have to locate all of the files when following the shortcuts.

1 hour ago, pstrub said:

Edit: So my suggestion is, move the folder to the new location (if you have enough free space on your drive, make a copy of it), then launch MSFS. When it asks you about the folder location, point it to the new folder.

Thank you for that. Note that I do not need to move the folder(s).  I am currently fully uninstalled.  What I need to do is just define a custom location when I reinstall.

2 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Thank you for that. Note that I do not need to move the folder(s).  I am currently fully uninstalled.  What I need to do is just define a custom location when I reinstall.

I'm not sure, I understand the whole frustration with this??? You mean, the 'Community' folder, in the game folder?! Is that in a 'strange' location?!

12 minutes ago, anden145 said:

I'm not sure, I understand the whole frustration with this??? You mean, the 'Community' folder, in the game folder?! Is that in a 'strange' location?!

If you are not aware of it's depth into nested folders on your system then I am unable to better explain.  I cannot capture and post the full default MS Store filepath as I am currently not installed.  Perhaps someone else will do that.  If not, just use your Windows file manager, start at the D:\ level (D: substitute in the drive letter for the drive where you have MSFS installed), and drill your way a step at a time into the structure of folders until you find the Community folder.  Then observe the number of characters in that folders full pathname. 

For added fun, click all the way into the deepest part of the folder structure for a complex addon, such as a Working Title GPS mod, and see what that adds to the pathname/filename length.  You can only do that step if the mod you choose is itself located in the Community folder.  If you use the Addons Linker (highly suggested) you would need to separately drill into both and add the filepath lengths together.

Edited August 6, 20214 yr by fppilot

14 minutes ago, fppilot said:

If you are not aware of it's depth into nested folders on your system then I am unable to better explain.  I cannot capture and post the full default MS Store filepath as I am currently not installed.  Perhaps someone else will do that.  If not, just use your Windows file manager, start at the D:\ level (D: substitute in the drive letter for the drive where you have MSFS installed), and drill your way a step at a time into the structure of folders until you find the Community folder.  Then observe the number of characters in that folders full pathname. 

This reminds me I've posted a topic about this:

FS2020 can't deal with pathnames beyond 260 chars, problem and solutions - Bugs & Issues / Miscellaneous - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

And speaking of the community folder, there is a new developing discussion here, where I've posted an idea which would also solve this "long file path" problem (I'll add it to the list in my post!):

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/the-msfs-update-process-the-digital-equivalent-of-a-rube-goldberg-machine/437301/25?u=cptlucky8

 

In my opinion MSFS is not worth reinstalling or buying now due to the washed out visuals and repeated ctd's.

We will see what happens with the promised hotfix and then the stability update with WU6.

I just want to underline that they already have the solution to this mess: rolling back to SU4. If they don't, they probably have some very good reason (and I think that debating those reasons here serves no purpose). I really hope they know perfectly well what they are doing, because SU4 was absolutely cool. Two weeks ago I had a tourist flight over Rome with some 40 people and a youtuber from Scotland called twotonemurphy. We had a lot of fun, and it looked totally immersive, one of those experiences you remember after years.

A.

56 minutes ago, fppilot said:

If you are not aware of it's depth into nested folders on your system then I am unable to better explain.  I cannot capture and post the full default MS Store filepath as I am currently not installed.  Perhaps someone else will do that.  If not, just use your Windows file manager, start at the D:\ level (D: substitute in the drive letter for the drive where you have MSFS installed), and drill your way a step at a time into the structure of folders until you find the Community folder.  Then observe the number of characters in that folders full pathname. 

I did this and found G:\Microsoft Flight Simulator\Community. No idea what you did when you chose the installation location.

On 8/5/2021 at 5:40 PM, Bigbluss said:

Hey guys, 

Hope everyone is well. I've been flying DCS for the last few months (I previously have many hours on MSFS) and felt an urge to fly some civilian aircraft on Pilotedge. If I was to buy the PMDG DC-6 with a barebones install of MSFS, no other addons bar Navigraph, Pilotedge client (or Vatsim) client, and the DC6, am I likely to run into a lot of issues due to SU5? I could download the sim and try it out, I know, but its huge and takes many days on my net connection.

Thanks 🙂

When the initial SU5 came out, the sim would run okay for me unless you went to a big payware airport with the PMDG DC-6 and then it would bomb, but since they released the hot fix for that update it's been as stable as ever, runs for hours on end with no issues whatsoever. Looks good and performs well now and that includes with the PMDG DC-6. 

Of course some people are apparently having issues with it, but since it runs okay on my PC as evidenced by the fact that I can stream-recordings for reviews at a solid 30+ FPS, so I am forced to conclude that would be a system-specific issue which is causing the problem for some, such as a driver, setting or some hardware which differs to my own. So I guess since there are many systems out there, all you can do is try it.

If it helps you to decide whether or not to do so, I have an intel i5 CPU, and an ATI RX480 GPU, so that's 8Gb of DDR5 GPU RAM and there is 44Gb of DDR4 RAM on the motherboard. MSFS is installed on a dedicated 500 GB SSD.

Edited August 6, 20214 yr by Chock

Hmm.. first when I installed MSFS I just let it install on the windows-drive and then I think the community folder was kind of not all that easy to find. After I reinstalled it on a dedicated M.2 it simply is under F:\MSFS\Community. Couldn't be easier. 

On 8/5/2021 at 9:40 AM, Bigbluss said:

Hey guys, I could download the sim and try it out, I know, but its huge and takes many days on my net connection.

Thanks 🙂

Well, 'many days' is 24 times as long as 'many hours'. If what you posted is literally true, then I don't see how you could run MSFS at all because you need to have a strong broadband connection to the cloud.

I am probably misunderstanding what you meant because my internet subscription plan is 'up to 100 Mbps', and when I re downloaded the whole installation it took only a very few hours, not 'many days'. Sounds like, if I understand you, your connection speed ceiling is way under that.

MSFS runs fine with my connection (my measured actual internet speeds vary from 45 to 85 Mbps during the day on ookla speed test site).  I don't think an internet plan rated up to 50 Mbps can run MSFS from the cloud, except sometimes during the day when you are actually getting the full rated 50 Mbps.

 

1 hour ago, Reader said:

I did this and found G:\Microsoft Flight Simulator\Community. No idea what you did when you chose the installation location.

Congratulations to you then.  Few knew to perform a custom installation in the early days.  This is an example of what was put in place with a default installation.  So now I expect you will have a better idea of what most of us dealt with. OK?  And that path just reaches the Community folder.  So for addon airports, aircraft liveries, and aircraft and avionics mods, the Community directory was only the starting point for their own sometimes lengthy paths.

F:\WpSystem\S-1-5-21-7555345473-1456586222-3848173965-1001\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_97675b3d8b558\LocalCache\Packages\Community

Edited August 6, 20214 yr by fppilot

51 minutes ago, Chock said:

When the initial SU5 came out, the sim would run okay for me unless you went to a big payware airport with the PMDG DC-6 and then it would bomb, but since they released the hot fix for that update it's been as stable as ever, runs for hours on end with no issues whatsoever. Looks good and performs well now and that includes with the PMDG DC-6. 

Of course some people are apparently having issues with it, but since it runs okay on my PC as evidenced by the fact that I can stream-recordings for reviews at a solid 30+ FPS, so I am forced to conclude that would be a system-specific issue which is causing the problem for some, such as a driver, setting or some hardware which differs to my own. So I guess since there are many systems out there, all you can do is try it.

If it helps you to decide whether or not to do so, I have an intel i5 CPU, and an ATI RX480 GPU, so that's 8Gb of DDR5 GPU RAM and there is 44Gb of DDR4 RAM on the motherboard. MSFS is installed on a dedicated 500 GB SSD.

Winner winner, chicken dinner!

Install the word not allowed sim, and ignore the nattering nabobs of negativity, would be my advice. 

Check out my screenshots in the screenshot forum to decide whether you can live with these supposed "massive visual downgrades".

53 minutes ago, Swe_Richard said:

Hmm.. first when I installed MSFS I just let it install on the windows-drive and then I think the community folder was kind of not all that easy to find. After I reinstalled it on a dedicated M.2 it simply is under F:\MSFS\Community. Couldn't be easier. 

So I obviously am aware I can this time choose a custom MSFS installation path.  But how do you separately choose that location for Community?

5 minutes ago, fppilot said:

So I obviously am aware I can this time choose a custom MSFS installation path.  But how do you separately choose that location for Community?

Well.. when I chose another path than the default I chose just MSFS at the root of another drive. Community then just was in the "level below".