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Possible to fly only with yoke and no rudders, throttles?

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You can use autorudder and fly without pedals, makes crosswind landings a bit awkward though. Throttles we use to manage fine with F1, F2, F3 and F4, but you could continue to use the one on your Logitech for more control of the engines.

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Rudder pedals is a waste of money, i have a joystick that controls rudder and speed, works perfect, ofcourse if you want to play real pilot you can buy alot of expensive stuff, gl with that.

IMO, rudder pedals are mandatory for a much more realistic replication of reality...

Unless you go for really expensive solutions that can reproduce control forces, the rudder pedals are ususally too "soft" under most circumstances, but some have adjustable friction to create a bit more of stiffness ...

OFC you can do with a joystick with a twist ruder on the control stick, or even by assigning buttons to rudder functions on some yokes, but it's not the same...

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2 minutes ago, jcomm said:

IMO, rudder pedals are mandatory for a much more realistic replication of reality...

Unless you go for really expensive solutions that can reproduce control forces, the rudder pedals are ususally too "soft" under most circumstances, but some have adjustable friction to create a bit more of stiffness ...

OFC you can do with a joystick with a twist ruder on the control stick, or even by assigning buttons to rudder functions on some yokes, but it's not the same...

I tried using the twist grip on joystick for rudder, when my 13 year old rudder pedals finally quit, and found it almost impossible to realistically control the aircraft. Did this for a few days until my new Pedals arrived. Landings were especially unrealistic, but I guess for someone that had no RL flying experience, it might no be that bad. 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

A few years ago, when I took this hobby "more seriously" I owned a set of CH yoke and pedals. I found this whole setup cumbersome, and eventually came to the
realization that having some chintzy piece of hardware under your desk makes you look a little, well, childish.....😄

Perhaps it was that those particular devices looked childish.  I have just had two rounds of overnight out-of-town guests.  Both were aware of my long-time involvement with flight simulation and wanted to see what its all about these days.  So I set up with my Honeycomb Alpha and Beta, and my Crosswind 3 pedals and fired up MSFS.  They did not see anything childish.  Just the opposite.  They were amazed.  One is a now retired Cruise Missile engineer, the other a nuclear engineer. 

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It appears that there are several approaches to simulated flying.  Many simers (is that a word?) just want to the experience of pretend flight while others of us want to duplicate the experience as close as possible to  actual flight operations.  In my younger days, I built up several hundred hours of actual flight time as a PIC.  Since my retirement, I'm trying to maintain some of my skills by simulated flying a complex aircraft under simulated real conditions to include flight planning, navigation and flight operations as closely as possible to real world requirements.  I find using a yoke, throttle quad and rudder pedals essential for this.

 

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17 hours ago, captain420 said:

I've been flying with just an xbox controller and a logitech extreme 3d pro flight stick. The Honeycomb Bravo is not available so the only thing I have is the Yoke and was hoping I could use that for the time being to fly with until the other stuff becomes available.

Keep your joystick plugged in beside your alpha and use it's buttons and axis for specific controls, I do that with my TH Warthog, and it works great.

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Actually, from am aerodynamics pov it would be a better solution to fly with just rudders and pitch control...

Some early aircraft, and the 2 axis ultralight, as well as many basic RC models only have rudder and elevator.

On most aircraft rudder only will be an easier option if you can't use the ailerons, so, in the limit you could set you yoke so as to have pitch and yaw axis...

Yaw-induced bank is effective enough specially if your aircraft has a significative dihedral 🙂

Try controlling for instance one of the lighter low wings, or even the C152, using just rudder and elevator. You will surely do a better job on landings even with some slight crosswind...

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Keep the ball centered or fly sideways which isn’t good technique unless in a sideslipe

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Just an FYI, Scan currently have this in stock for £279.

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Would I be able to fly the FBWA320 with the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke? Although, unrealistic as I know the real airbus is a stick. But just wondering.

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4 hours ago, captain420 said:

Would I be able to fly the FBWA320 with the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke? Although, unrealistic as I know the real airbus is a stick. But just wondering.

Of course you can, it will even be easier than with a joystick because the yoke has longer movements in the axis.

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What buttons would you guys recommend me to bind to simulate rudders (yaw) and toe brakes on the honeycomb alpha/bravo setup for the time being?

I only really use the rudder pedals during taxiing, but hardly ever use them while flying much. So mapping the functions of a dedicate rudder pedals to my current yoke/throttle quadrant for the time being while I wait for getting me a set of dedicated rudder pedals.

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9 hours ago, captain420 said:

What buttons would you guys recommend me to bind to simulate rudders (yaw) and toe brakes on the honeycomb alpha/bravo setup for the time being?

I suggest you temporarily use the keyboard for the rudder and brake functions while waiting to get rudder peddles . I don't have any Honeycomb equipment, but my understanding is many of the buttons are NOT momentary active buttons. Keys act like a momentary button switch, so you can apply a rudder or brake input by holding down a key (with repeat on), and then quickly remove the input just by releasing the key.

At one time MSFS had the key bindings below. I don't know if this has changed, and of course, you can setup any key bindings you want under MSFS keyboard profiles.

 LEFT BRAKE     Num *
 RIGHT BRAKE   Num -

RUDDER LEFT (YAW LEFT)         Num 0
 RUDDER RIGHT (YAW RIGHT)   Enter

An alternative to using keys would be to use your Logitech flight stick. It has a twist function for the rudder, and momentary push buttons that you could assign for the brakes.

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