All this time I thought this was other MSFS users!  That must be 'Multiplayer',  yes?   I think the reason I thought RTOT was that it does seem somewhat chaotic and density changes immensely from airport to airport, time of day, so I wonder what Asobo uses to determine how much traffic displays?

Nope. Multiplayer is multiplayer, ie other players.  AI Traffic is AI traffic. And real time traffic is exactly that, sort of. MS is injecting real flight data with some 10 mins offset. 

17 minutes ago, Noel said:

All this time I thought this was other MSFS users!  That must be 'Multiplayer',  yes?   I think the reason I thought RTOT was that it does seem somewhat chaotic and density changes immensely from airport to airport, time of day, so I wonder what Asobo uses to determine how much traffic displays?

Asobo are using injected flight information from flight aware FlightAware News and Announcements - FlightAware

although atm there are issues with that, mainly not all flights are being shown - although I have to say over recent days I have heard of new airlines in the SIM.

the other issue is with the way the SIM manipulates the traffic, be it on the ground or in the air - but that's another story. 

 

43 minutes ago, DAD said:

Nope. Multiplayer is multiplayer, ie other players.  AI Traffic is AI traffic. And real time traffic is exactly that, sort of. MS is injecting real flight data with some 10 mins offset. 

Thanks for the clarification!

1 hour ago, DAD said:

Nope. Multiplayer is multiplayer, ie other players.  AI Traffic is AI traffic. And real time traffic is exactly that, sort of. MS is injecting real flight data with some 10 mins offset. 

I have wondered about this often;

If set to MULTIPLAYER - does one only see other players and no others? (no other non player aircraft)

If set to AI TRAFFIC - does one only see sim generated fake traffic and no others? Does this mode provide for more even coverage (i.e. aircraft at all airports regardless of type or size)? Do they land, takeoff and taxi?

If set to REALTIME- does one only see processed flightware traffic and no others? Can it show other players at the same time? Will it infill traffic at airport(s) that have no real traffic at that time?

Just trying to figure out if these 'type' are at all blended to for a more uniform and even experience.  If not, what would you suggest as the best setting to achieve that?

 

Here is a shot of my EFB display showing moving air traffic around KATL just now. 

 

16 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

I have wondered about this often;

If set to MULTIPLAYER - does one only see other players and no others? (no other non player aircraft)

Yes

If set to AI TRAFFIC - does one only see sim generated fake traffic and no others? Does this mode provide for more even coverage (i.e. aircraft at all airports regardless of type or size)? Do they land, takeoff and taxi?

Vannila offline traffic is random and rare. Yes they do land takeoff and taxi however takeoffs are limited only to sim start and aircraft which land at the airport during sim session. 

If set to REALTIME- does one only see processed flightware traffic and no others? Can it show other players at the same time? Will it infill traffic at airport(s) that have no real traffic at that time?

Yes, no infilling. Complete empty airports. Well majority are because pilots not keeping their transponders on during turnarounds not to mention between crew changes etc.

Just trying to figure out if these 'type' are at all blended to for a more uniform and even experience.  If not, what would you suggest as the best setting to achieve that?

Best setting for me is rlts at 1% for ground offline traffic coupled together with enhanced ai traffic which essentially pulls down every single plane from FR24 instead of MS's hit or miss traffic (especially in rural areas around the world)

 

 

So real-time online traffic is injecting FlightAware data about real world flights, and multiplayer is showing other players who are flying? 

16 minutes ago, RobJC said:

So real-time online traffic is injecting FlightAware data about real world flights, and multiplayer is showing other players who are flying? 

Multiplayer is only going to show you other people flying that have their multiplayer switched on. I never use multiplayer, so you would never see me flying. 

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So, what are the short comings of using real time traffic? What’s broken and what’s not?

Does it work somewhat properly, I’m rather interested in that function.

Sometimes on Youtube a channel will announce it will be flying at a certain date and time. When the broadcast starts there are other planes all around with names displayed. So if you want to see your own plane on Youtube you can do that. Sometimes there is a swarm of multiplayer planes lined up behind the channel guy's own plane ready to chase after him when he takes starts down the runway.

One time a guy announced he would be looking for big animals in Africa on his upcoming broadcast. By the time he started a bunch of planes could be seen in the far distance circling around (over the elephants) so it was too easy for him to locate them. He wasn't too happy.

17 minutes ago, flyinpilot212121 said:

So, what are the short comings of using real time traffic? What’s broken and what’s not?

Does it work somewhat properly, I’m rather interested in that function.

Live Traffic AI is working 50% at the moment. Airplanes spawn in the air will follow their real world route, Planes spawning at the gate will never depart at the moment.

1 hour ago, intheshadow said:

 

It seems some of the responses seem to indicate these options are all exclusive from one another, which is not true.  You can run Multiplayer along with real-time online or AI traffic and see other online players along with the injected or AI aircraft

From my observations, live traffic will follow the real aircraft's path as shown in FlightAware in-between departure and arrival.
During departure (when it works) it is fully AI driven like offline traffic, and when it's time to descend/approach, ATC tells the live traffic to drop to 10 thousand feet from where ever it currently is.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I watched a NavCanada flight in real life and in the sim do ILS test approaches at an airport I leave near. The Live Traffic aircraft would descend down towards the runway, pull away and loop around and repeat, following the exact same looping pattern as the real aircraft. Once the testing was done, it flew off to its final destination just like the real one.

One downside with live traffic is the range in which it spawns. Live traffic only spawns within 35-40 miles from the player. way shorter a distance than offline traffic spawns.

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3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Here is a shot of my EFB display showing moving air traffic around KATL just now. 

Where did you get this EFB?