3080Ti is ideal for MSFS currently esp when paired w/  this 9900K at 4.9Ghz--hopefully that holds up after DX-12, and I think it very likely will, primarily because Xbox SX employs 10gb of its 16 for GPU functions.  With all settings Ultra, Texture SS 8x, AF16x, LOD-O 200,. LOD-T between 200 and 400 depending on scenario due to impact on the main thread, the maximum VRAM in use I've seen did not happen until I installed FT's KLAS and in the B787 HD, and max there was 11.6Gb briefly during one part of taxi..  In every other complex airport the absolute max was about 10.6Gb, but typically 7.5-9Gb is what I'm seeing w/ these settings even in complex airports and cities.

5 minutes ago, Noel said:

max there was 11.6Gb briefly during one part of taxi..

without display resolution this means nothing. I saw 18 GB in use on my 24GB Vram 3090 running at 4K, most sliders max, for those resolutions and VR there is an excuse for 24GB Vram 3090s. I got it this summer for 1.899, didn't think twice about an 3080ti instead.

19 minutes ago, turbomax said:

without display resolution this means nothing. I saw 18 GB in use on my 24GB Vram 3090 running at 4K, most sliders max, for those resolutions and VR there is an excuse for 24GB Vram 3090s. I got it this summer for 1.899, didn't think twice about an 3080ti instead.

It was in my sig...and when you look at pixel count 4K is about 167% of the pixel count of 3440x1440.  Plus, it's never clear exactly how MSFS handles VRAM v SysRAM.  If VRAM is there, numbers go up, but OTOH, I have ultra smooth stutter free performance with settings higher than your own.  So for my particular display resolution I don't expect to ever need a 3090 as the top half of its VRAM would never see an electron, and I have no desire for 4K.  You got your 3090 for a very good price, good for you.  Quite frankly I could have easily bought one but couldn't stomach the fact I knew it wasn't going to use the VRAM plus the bloody thing weighs over 7 lbs, all for 12 tiny GBs of VRAM.  Had the GPU been 20% faster I might have gone for it, but alas it's no faster than 3080Ti.

Edited November 7, 20214 yr by Noel

2 hours ago, psolk said:

That is the one I don't understand... Even if you got one at MSRP I can not see the price/performance numbers on a 3090 ever justifying themselves.  Especially not for gaming.  

I paid £1299 (or thereabouts ) for a 3090 at launch. To me it’s fully justified at todays crazy prices 🙂 

23 minutes ago, Noel said:

3080Ti is ideal for MSFS currently esp when paired w/  this 9900K at 4.9Ghz-

It’s only ideal because you own it 🙂

I suspect a 3090 paired with a 12900K would be better than your setup. 

It's funny seeing people who were impatient and got suckered into buying it, desperately trying to convince themselves and us how great that purchase was 😄

Edited November 7, 20214 yr by Sethos

3080Ti is not a waste of money. They said the same thing about all the TI over the last 3 generations. It's true something you don't see an difference but it has nothing to do with the GPU itself, it has everything to do with game engine that are too single threaded and can't take advantage of the GPU. Like MSFS per example. My GPU is only hitting 60% utilization. That's because I'm core bottleneck by the engine and my AMD 3800x. Doesn't mean the 3080Ti is not better than 3070. In this case, it has nothing to do with the GPU. Try a game like Metro Exodus Enhanced edition that is full ray tracing. You will see an enormous difference between a 3070 , 3080 and 3080Ti. 

My RTX 3070 only cost £460 and does the job well enough for me along with a 5600X CPU at £350.

I wouldn't pay the prices being asked for 3080s now, it's gone mad.

The 3080ti labelling is a bit of a misnomer - technically the 3080TI is closer to being a 3090 with less RAM, not really a big brother for the 3080.  Calling it an upgraded version of the 3080 was clearly some sort of marketing shenanigans to avoid undermining 3090 sales.

Just look at the numbers - the 3080 TI is clearly a 3090 with less ram and NOT some souped up version of the 3080

	RTX 3090	RTX 3080 Ti	RTX 3080
Boost Freq	1.70GHz	1.67GHz	1.71GHz
Cuda Cores	10496	10240	8704
Tensor Cores	328	320	272

 

1 hour ago, Noel said:

and when you look at pixel count 4K is about 167% of the pixel count of 3440x1440

exactly, not all 4K resolutions are the same. my 4K resolution of 3840x2160 is bigger than yours 😀, those 67% more pixels are left for the 3090.

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I paid £1299

sounds very good, but still is 1.753 US Dollar

23 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

The 3080ti labelling is a bit of a misnomer - technically the 3080TI is closer to being a 3090 with less RAM, not really a big brother for the 3080.  Calling it an upgraded version of the 3080 was clearly some sort of marketing shenanigans to avoid undermining 3090 sales.

Just look at the numbers - the 3080 TI is clearly a 3090 with less ram and NOT some souped up version of the 3080

	RTX 3090	RTX 3080 Ti	RTX 3080
Boost Freq	1.70GHz	1.67GHz	1.71GHz
Cuda Cores	10496	10240	8704
Tensor Cores	328	320	272

 

Well that tells a story!  And is reflected in what I see in every day performance.

As I stated above, I am really happy with my 3080Ti, the price I paid for it, and the performance I am getting.  That's all that matters to me.  Getting involved in 'GPU wars' is as pointless and the MSFS v XPlane stuff.

Sometimes the 'Ti' branding takes a bashing for the extra cost, but my old 1080Ti was the best graphics card I ever had to that point, and the one that I kept for the longest.  Before that I was endlessly swapping between AMD and Nvidia every 12 months.

Edited November 7, 20214 yr by bobcat999

I can run the game in Ultra + 300 Lod at 2K with my 2080Ti, so I see no reason to upgrade at the moment, I will wait for the next generation of GPUs and then replace my monitor to 4K at the same time.

3 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I can run the game in Ultra + 300 Lod at 2K with my 2080Ti, so I see no reason to upgrade at the moment, I will wait for the next generation of GPUs and then replace my monitor to 4K at the same time.

True.  If you don't run 4k native, then your card will cope just fine.  Even my old 1080Ti chewed through 2k with reasonably high detail settings; it just started to lag a bit at 4k with the rest of the settings I wanted.
I have a 4k monitor, so I wanted to use it at this resolution or else it is a bit of a waste.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

to ever need a 3090 as the top half of its VRAM would never see an electron, and I have no desire for 4K.  You got your 3090 for a very good price

there have been a few electrons come by and go beyond the top half, upto 18.2 Millions at a time on my 3090 😀

the price was the lowest this whole year, July was the best time to purchase a new 3090. 1.756,88 US Dollar plus tax. it was available several times this summer at that price.