2 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Firstly, this is the first time I won't be taking part in a Beta, mainly due to lack of time at this moment, but also because there is not enough content in there to interest me enough this time.  If I do get a chance to 'fly', I want to do it in a stable simulator.  I do like the beta test system though - definitely going in the right direction.

Secondly, my view of the team is straight down the middle - they do some great stuff, but some of the quality control issues and regressions have been really poor, and they admit it themselves. They do seem to be getting generally better though, which is good obviously. 

Thirdly, I feel quite sad about people who block people on here, and then seem to want to laugh or boast about it. 
Although the system is there for people who are a bit fragile to tolerate other peoples views, that way, dragon's lie, and we end up with situations like where we are today around the world.

There are lots of people I disagree with on here, but I would not block a single one of them, ever, because I am grown up and can tolerate other peoples opinions.
If someone has a rant, I just skip over it and let it go.  Even if I disagree with the rant, normally it is just some decent person who cares about the sim just letting off steam due to frustration - I have been there myself.

When blocking out different opinions, you just tend to end up in an echo chamber of similar people and views only - not always healthy, but I understand some people need to feel safe in their comfort zone.  Anyway, that's my opinion!  

what a great comment! Bravissimo!

39 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Well, it is not a secret that nowadays some people have little to no standards and can be satisfied easily. For me, I rather have no implementation of a feature than a mediocre bugged one, but then also Simple Traffic and Bredok planes achieve high sale numbers...

No software feature can be "perfect" unless it goes under scrutiny by the public.  I'm not for kicking out any feature out the door without any standard of quality at all.  But a lot of times in software development, you can spend forever working on a feature, but when it's released to the public, the feedback on it is not what you expected and then you find that you wasted a lot of time on development that could have been saved.

Like @Maxis said, Microsoft/Asobo needs feedback on the features they release, to make it better.  I think most of the features that Microsoft/Asobo releases for MSFS are very good, but sometimes not perfect.  But that's fine if they aren't perfect because that's why we give feedback to them to improve on the feature, and over time, with our feedback, those features can become perfect.

Microsoft/Asobo are listening to us to make MSFS better.  MSFS has already gone through almost 1.75 years of development now.  And in those 1.75 years, it has improved a lot. 

3 minutes ago, DylanM said:

Given this is managed with shaders, I can't believe a 3PD hasn't come out with a snow-clearing equipment addon yet. Seriously though, that would be pretty neat... 

https://secure.simmarket.com/taburet-snowy-runways-innsbruck-courchevel-msfs-(de_16458).phtml

😄

1 hour ago, abrams_tank said:

 Microsoft/Asobo needs feedback on the features they release, to make it better.  

I agree, IF they would actually react to the feedback... while they seem to hear the feedback for various topics, they now ignore certain aspects for almost two years. If it is about something you bother, this is simply dissapointing... Snow coverage is just one sample, they have the data but somehow they do not care. Drives me nuts...

4 minutes ago, AnkH said:

I agree, IF they would actually react to the feedback... while they seem to hear the feedback for various topics, they now ignore certain aspects for almost two years. If it is about something you bother, this is simply dissapointing... Snow coverage is just one sample, they have the data but somehow they do not care. Drives me nuts...

They also have other priorities to work on.  How highly upvoted is the snow coverage topic?  Just asking, because even for some of the most highly upvoted wishlist items, it took them a year before they started work on it.  If the snow coverage wishlist item isn't even highly upvoted, it could be some time before they get around to fixing it.

If the community feels that the snow coverage is that important to fix, I suggest the community upvote the wishlist item for snow coverage so that Microsoft/Asobo knows we think it's important to fix.  Otherwise, Microsoft/Asobo will probably work on the features that have the most upvotes first.

Edited April 5, 20224 yr by abrams_tank

1 hour ago, Nemo said:

 people who block people on here  .... because I am grown up and can tolerate other peoples opinions.

opinions - fine. insults not so fine, and because I am grown up, I can not tolerate other peoples insults. ignore lists were made for this, another opinion is fine and easier to digest when supported by facts. the same opinion is finer, it gets more of my LIKEs 😊

Edited April 5, 20224 yr by turbomax

36 minutes ago, turbomax said:

the same opinion is finer, it gets more of my LIKEs 😊

How to quote what is wrong with society in one sentence. 

37 minutes ago, turbomax said:

another opinion is fine and easier to digest when supported by facts.

An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, rather than facts, which are true statements. 

Anyhow.. Looks like theres a new build of the beta on the way. Hopefully this fixes a bunch of showstoppers for those who took the time to participate and provide feedback. 

The beta process now appears to be working. 

17 minutes ago, Maxis said:

Anyhow.. Looks like theres a new build of the beta on the way. Hopefully this fixes a bunch of showstoppers for those who took the time to participate and provide feedback. 

The beta process now appears to be working. 

Yup.  This is why some of us pushed so hard for the public opt-in beta.  The value of a public opt-in beta is immense in making MSFS more stable, and reducing the number of bugs by the time the Sim Updates are released officially.

I can't believe that Microsoft/Asobo didn't even plan a public opt-in beta when they released MSFS.  I hope that Microsoft/Asobo understands the value of a public opt-in beta now for MSFS.  

3 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint,

I agree, should have said "a statement", anyway please take my "statement" with a pinch or two of salt. still there are gray areas and interpretation of "facts", otherwise why would not all scientists agree on the same conclusions when the facts are the same for everyone?

Edited April 5, 20224 yr by turbomax

3 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Yup.  This is why some of us pushed so hard for the public opt-in beta.  The value of a public opt-in beta is immense in making MSFS more stable, and reducing the number of bugs by the time the Sim Updates are released officially.

I can't believe that Microsoft/Asobo didn't even plan a public opt-in beta when they released MSFS.  I hope that Microsoft/Asobo understands the value of a public opt-in beta now for MSFS.  

In 10 years of software devopment I would test the code I had written.  However hard I tested, the end user found immediately without fail.

Edited April 5, 20224 yr by MrBitstFlyer

2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

In 10 years of software development I would test the code I had written thoroughly.  However hard I tested, the end user found bugs immediately without fail.

 

13 hours ago, Dillon said:

I'm late on this comment but you realize you'd be back on FSX, P3D, or Xplane (basically cartoon simulators) if it wasn't for this team...

Lost interest in this post at this point.  I had years of pleasure with all of those sims and I am still a regular user of XP11.  The developers of any complex flight sim is to be congratulated wholeheartedly in bringing us such amazing software.  We have choice in our preferred flight sim and my choice is to buy all of them 😁

Jorg and the team behind MSFS has done a remarkable job and I have nothing but praise and thanks to them, but this fact doesn't make other simulators cartoons or the developers of those simulators anything other than remarkable too.  Pay your money, take your choice and leave the disrespect at the door.

Anyone able to use the FBW A320 in the beta?