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Wing42 Boeing 247D released!

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You are a bit harsh here, plane is great but need to be learned and maybe some details polished by some SP.

I think plane is beautiful, interesting and really well done.

Artur 

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So  beautiful and authentic 🙂

I love all the instruments getting asynchronous vibrations along the engine speed.

I had also some troubles a few minutes after engine start: one of them shut down for some (unknow) reason, then followed by engine 1. At second attempt, engine 1 died through fire. Maybe engine speed too high at low temp?

One problem I had with mouse interaction is with the primer: I'm unable to pull it. Tried the mouse wheel without chance. (same in VR mode or normal 2D view)

 

EDIT: I miss the zoom in VR with right mouse button. For some reason it's disabled in this aircraft. It would be very useful to have a good reading of the gauges

Edited by roland_lfor

Roland

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17 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

So guys I'd rather disappointed.  Looks like a great attempt to implement high fidelity realism but not great implementation of user system .

I was able to start both engines fairly easily but after few minutes or so they both died with absolutely no indication what was wrong. So I decided to restart flight and try again. Oddly enough all switches remained as I left it. I couldn't find any way to reset everything to cold and dark. My only guess whatever damage was done is still affecting aircraft even after  multiple attempt to restart. Because consequent  attempt to start  engines following same procedures were unsuccessful. It's really hard to guess what exactly went wrong?

 I wish developer should have had system that inform user what damage was done engine flooded? Oil temperature exceeded? Cylinder pop through cowling? Also It would be great to have an explicit  way to reset all damage, and option reset switches as well.

 

Did you try turning off all the failure options that are listed in the clipboard (I forget what page)?

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2 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

No it's called you haven't flown single pilot IFR leg longer than two hours IRL

I think the guys who actually flew these in real life would laugh their heads off at that comment

48 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

Did you try turning off all the failure options that are listed in the clipboard (I forget what page)?

Not yet. I was under impression that restarting flight suppose to do reset all damage 

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5 minutes ago, Pathfinder633 said:

I think the guys who actually flew these in real life would laugh their heads off at that comment

Later model of 247 do had autopilot for reason . I did my fair share of ferry flights IRL all without autopilot. So I’m sorry I really don’t care what you think 

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I found another sticky thing . From a default pilot view it’s really hard to clearly see if fuel primer is locked. Using second default camera view on the left panel seems give better insight. 

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6 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Later model of 247 do had autopilot for reason . I did my fair share of ferry flights IRL all without autopilot. So I’m sorry I really don’t care what you think 

and why would we care what you think?

you should not have bought it then, do better research beforehand.

44 minutes ago, wim123 said:

and why would we care what you think?

you should not have bought it then, do better research beforehand.

I express my opinion about product I have purchased. I do not tell anyone what to they should or should not do. If you disagree  you can write your own. 

 

 

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OK folks, lets settle down.

I happen to agree with sd_flyer's assessment - He bought it and he voiced an opinion - period.

As to the comments about IFR flying - ANYONE (myself included) who has manually flown IFR in real IFR conditions for any length of time will also agree with his comment. Two hours IFR with no autopilot in IFR conditions takes a big toll of your energy and yes I have done it many times in the past - it's hard work.

So let's cut a little slack here please.

 

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4 minutes ago, roland_lfor said:

One problem I had with mouse interaction is with the primer: I'm unable to pull it. Tried the mouse wheel without chance. (same in VR mode or normal 2D view)

I read that if the fuel tanks are not set to on, it may be hard to prime or use the wobble pump, because you are working against suction in the lines. 

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4 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

So guys I'd rather disappointed.  Looks like a great attempt to implement high fidelity realism but not great implementation of user system .

I was able to start both engines fairly easily but after few minutes or so they both died with absolutely no indication what was wrong. So I decided to restart flight and try again. Oddly enough all switches remained as I left it. I couldn't find any way to reset everything to cold and dark. My only guess whatever damage was done is still affecting aircraft even after  multiple attempt to restart. Because consequent  attempt to start  engines following same procedures were unsuccessful. It's really hard to guess what exactly went wrong?

 I wish developer should have had system that inform user what damage was done engine flooded? Oil temperature exceeded? Cylinder pop through cowling? Also It would be great to have an explicit  way to reset all damage, and option reset switches as well.

 

I know you are a very experienced pilot IRL so please don't think I am trying to "educate" you...I always enjoy your insights. I have flown her for several hours now and a few things I have noticed:

A) carefully watch oil pressure and temp...if they drop then you can have failures. Make sure you have the right type of oil for the outside temps.

2) You have to warm the engines thoroughly at higher rpms or they will conk out.

C) You do have to lean after 5000 ft or so...not sure if this is accurate considering MSFS's mixture issues

*) I am constantly checking rpm, oil coolant levers, carb heat etc. to keep the balance right at altitude.

&) I think if you turn the fuel valves off and zero out everything else (throttle, mixture, etc.) you can get back to "ready" to start

etc) Yes, the primer knob is a pain...I hope it gets tweaked.

I am a vintage junkie...love this plane!

12 minutes ago, Target71 said:

I know you are a very experienced pilot IRL so please don't think I am trying to "educate" you...I always enjoy your insights. I have flown her for several hours now and a few things I have noticed:

A) carefully watch oil pressure and temp...if they drop then you can have failures. Make sure you have the right type of oil for the outside temps.

2) You have to warm the engines thoroughly at higher rpms or they will conk out.

C) You do have to lean after 5000 ft or so...not sure if this is accurate considering MSFS's mixture issues

*) I am constantly checking rpm, oil coolant levers, carb heat etc. to keep the balance right at altitude.

&) I think if you turn the fuel valves off and zero out everything else (throttle, mixture, etc.) you can get back to "ready" to start

etc) Yes, the primer knob is a pain...I hope it gets tweaked.

I am a vintage junkie...love this plane!

Thanks for a tip. It's very enjoyable airplane. There are some awesome little details like  listening 30th radio! AI coplot and CRM would be a great addition though!

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Note that there are known issues with state saving.  If you have issues starting after the first flight, particularly if you had an engine failure, change oil and refill the fuel tanks and then cycle the magneto and tanks on and off a couple of times.  The dev is apparently aware of the issue.

Also external magneto switches such as on the Honeycomb apparently can cause issues for some people.

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