On 4/3/2022 at 9:33 AM, Stoopy said:

Be forewarned he doesn't really fly the plane,.  I was just making a joke.  But I'm wondering if the "pilot assist" options might work in this?

 

I'm can't find a flightsim.to co-pilot which apes the pilot actions.

It's great airplane but implementation of engine failure is very frustrating. It almost like roll of dice. I did several flights using SAE30 and 50 oil (based on environmental condition) . Keeping the exactly the same power settings and temperature value I got some flight successful and another ended up in failure . There is no real record or explanation of what exactly was wrong to cause engine failure.

While I admire developer approach, but there are thing that sorely missed. For example, would be great to see more detail description of failure to learn how to avoid it next time. Or perhaps have AI pilot/assistant who can monitor and warn/recommend of impending failure. And of course true CRM pr AI pilot that can pilot aircraft or at least keep heading and altitude! After all Boeing 247 was designed to have two piloting crew members. 

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

It's great airplane but implementation of engine failure is very frustrating. It almost like roll of dice. I did several flights using SAE30 and 50 oil (based on environmental condition) . Keeping the exactly the same power settings and temperature value I got some flight successful and another ended up in failure . There is no real record or explanation of what exactly was wrong to cause engine failure.

While I admire developer approach, but there are thing that sorely missed. For example, would be great to see more detail description of failure to learn how to avoid it next time. Or perhaps have AI pilot/assistant who can monitor and warn/recommend of impending failure. And of course true CRM pr AI pilot that can pilot aircraft or at least keep heading and altitude! After all Boeing 247 was designed to have two piloting crew members. 

Disable engine failures. Same fun, less stress. 

19 minutes ago, lupedelupe said:

Disable engine failures. Same fun, less stress. 

I know I can disable engine failure and realistic start, but the whole reason why I bought B247D because of "accusim" like management. This is most fun for me

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

It's great airplane but implementation of engine failure is very frustrating. It almost like roll of dice. I did several flights using SAE30 and 50 oil (based on environmental condition) . Keeping the exactly the same power settings and temperature value I got some flight successful and another ended up in failure . There is no real record or explanation of what exactly was wrong to cause engine failure.

While I admire developer approach, but there are thing that sorely missed. For example, would be great to see more detail description of failure to learn how to avoid it next time. Or perhaps have AI pilot/assistant who can monitor and warn/recommend of impending failure. And of course true CRM pr AI pilot that can pilot aircraft or at least keep heading and altitude! After all Boeing 247 was designed to have two piloting crew members. 

I flew with engine failures and all other options disabled for the first flights to familiarize myself with the plane, then turned all options on last night and did a lengthy flight with no issues other than observing the unusually low cylinder and oil temps as is commonly reported. Ended up closing the oil coolers, turning up carb heat to full.  RPM was set to 2100 and manifold pressure never left the white zone. Flew for well over an hour or so down the coast from Santa Maria CA to LAX with no fires.  If my luck holds out, maybe turning options off for a flight or two then enabling them again to cycle the settings is something to try?  

Not sure what else to suggest.

Edited April 5, 20224 yr by Stoopy

4 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

I flew with engine failures and all other options disabled for the first flights to familiarize myself with the plane, then turned all options on last night and did a lengthy flight with no issues other than observing the unusually low cylinder and oil temps as is commonly reported. Ended up closing the oil coolers, turning up carb heat to full.  RPM was set to 2100 and manifold pressure never left the white zone. Flew for well over an hour or so down the coast from Santa Maria CA to LAX with no fires.  If my luck holds out, maybe turning options off for a flight or two then enabling them again to cycle the settings is something to try?  

Not sure what else to suggest.

I do exactly that and my lack is fairy random. I also experimenting with different oil type by completely changing one and toping another. So far my experience is random failures. Sometimes engine catch fire, sometimes quit on landing. I trying  to make sense of failures but I can't see the pattern. I only suspect something with oil and altitude. Some cruising altitude I got more lucky than with another.

P.S.I also email developers, but haven't received response yet

Same here.

Really, really like this plane. It has so much character and detail.

it’s just frustrating too not know why the engines are randomly failing.

Also noticed that MSFS does state saving occasionally during a flight. This sometimes causes hiccups with this addon and i also had the oil temp shoot to it’s max, right after this occurred.

Hey guys, the 247D looks like a cool plane and I’ve read it’s super realistic. So before I bought I wanted to check to see if the realism allows the co-pilot to take over flying if you want?

For example, you do the startup, takeoff, and trim at cruise, can you then hand over the controls to the co-pilot while you run back and use the head, or go chat with the fancy passengers? Thanks for letting me know.

Yes, he will even bring you new toilet paper when you run out…😀

12 minutes ago, dresoccer4 said:

Hey guys, the 247D looks like a cool plane and I’ve read it’s super realistic. So before I bought I wanted to check to see if the realism allows the co-pilot to take over flying if you want?

For example, you do the startup, takeoff, and trim at cruise, can you then hand over the controls to the co-pilot while you run back and use the head, or go chat with the fancy passengers? Thanks for letting me know.

The only way is to use default Asobo AI piloting. I tried Asobo AI once and 247 flew straight down. So most likely  no.

The only current option for bio/nature breaks is probably hit ESC and temporarily pause your flight.

I had the same issue, none a single flight run more than 20 minutes without engine failure, while trying to fly exactly from the book.

Right now I'm flying since one hour without problem. The only thing I don't follow from the book is trying to keep Carb temp above 100°F - I'm not using Carb heat at all. I believe that there something wrong with either temp value read, or procedure.

 

Also about the Primer I was unable to action, it was my fault as I've just realized that the valve (3rd element in that column group, at bottom) needs to be open!

My fault 

 

EDIT: both engines on fire ah ah, I wrote too fast 

Edited April 5, 20224 yr by roland_lfor

Climb/Cruise/Descent settings are listed on the clipboard. 

Does it seem to anyone else like it takes an excessive amount off time to bleed off speed in MSFS during approaches?    I have to stay way ahead of the plane.    The Twin Otter is like that too.

/so sexy,

 

Edited April 5, 20224 yr by Waldo Pepper

19 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

Yes this is a phenomenon for any aircraft not built on MSFS native code. 1st time it loads it takes forever...then its fine.

Sadly this also applies when beta builds get updated and you reload the aircraft into MSFS. 🤪

The reason for the delay on first load is that the WASM code has to be compiled into a native DLL.

It has nothing to do with the aircraft being "not built on MSFS native code".  A ground-up MSFS native aircraft will do this too if it uses WASM (C++) to implement complex gauges.

Any WASM module has to be internally compiled when first loaded and if there is a change in the WASM module (e.g. with a service pack).

1 hour ago, roland_lfor said:

I had the same issue, none a single flight run more than 20 minutes without engine failure, while trying to fly exactly from the book.

Right now I'm flying since one hour without problem. The only thing I don't follow from the book is trying to keep Carb temp above 100°F - I'm not using Carb heat at all. I believe that there something wrong with either temp value read, or procedure.

 

Also about the Primer I was unable to action, it was my fault as I've just realized that the valve (3rd element in that column group, at bottom) needs to be open!

My fault 

 

EDIT: both engines on fire ah ah, I wrote too fast 

I think you are on something. I ignored my carb temps and completed the longest successful flight yet!