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Leonardo Maddog to be released 30 April!

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1 hour ago, regis9 said:

I've been trying to figure this out too, I haven't been able to find a solid explanation yet in the manual (or Chuck's guide) but when I extended the slats the FMS override started to work.  I'm not sure if/why having the slats extended is a required for FMS override to work (there's certainly scenarios where you'd want to override speed but not necessarily extend slats), but I haven't yet found another way to get it working, hopefully someone can point us in the right direction.

See my post above

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

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14 minutes ago, badgenes said:

I take that back, how do you get the route into the MCDU once you've chosen SIMBRIEF in the Load Manager?

a) The simbrief route file must be in community/leonardo-maddog-aircraft/routes
b) enter the companyroute (e.g. KJFKKDFW) in the route menu on the fms

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

23 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

That's the same in the real plane. FMS override only works when slats are out. However... at 210 you can and should extend the slats, so I don't see the problem. If you absolutely do not want to, you can always set a speed constraint in the FMS. The thinking is: "if the pilot is using vnav, he controls everyhting with the FMS." That's why you cannot do "manual speed" in VNAV mode on a clean configuration. (Not saying this makes too much sense, but that's how the real plane is)

Thanks, that is good to know!

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33 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

That's the same in the real plane. FMS override only works when slats are out. However... at 210 you can and should extend the slats, so I don't see the problem. If you absolutely do not want to, you can always set a speed constraint in the FMS. The thinking is: "if the pilot is using vnav, he controls everyhting with the FMS." That's why you cannot do "manual speed" in VNAV mode on a clean configuration. (Not saying this makes too much sense, but that's how the real plane is)

Another question what would be correct procedure to engage autopilot right after take off? I often find autopilot chasing 250 kts in a dive LOL

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Chaps, how do you open the cockpit door? There are click spots on the galley side of the door, but they don't do anything. Anyone worked this out?

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19 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Another question what would be correct procedure to engage autopilot right after take off? I often find autopilot chasing 250 kts in a dive LOL

That does not seem right. Why would AP do so? You can activate it right after take off and it should follow the takeoff guidance until you change the lateral and vertical mode. Works perfectly for me, so no idea why not for you. Enough power (CLB mode)?

Also do not use MSFS default keys, they somehow wreck the autopilot. Only flip the switch in the VC with the mouse.

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

6 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

Chaps, how do you open the cockpit door? There are click spots on the galley side of the door, but they don't do anything. Anyone worked this out?

Overhead panel, door lock "deny" or "open". The same thing as the 737 has (only in another place)

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

51 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

That does not seem right. Why would AP do so? You can activate it right after take off and it should follow the takeoff guidance until you change the lateral and vertical mode. Works perfectly for me, so no idea why not for you. Enough power (CLB mode)?

Also do not use MSFS default keys, they somehow wreck the autopilot. Only flip the switch in the VC with the mouse.

Thanks for the info on the slats.  I’m actually experiencing this all well, my first two flights after I’m airborne and climbing from the runway, I turn in the autopilot and VNAV and it wants to lawn dart me - the vertical speed on the autopilot panel quickly drops to around -300l from.  I’m going to do another flight here momentarily but I seem to recall VNAV was not entering climb mode when I first turn on the autopilot.  I’m guessing there’s some required parameters for VNAV climb to engage that I’m missing?

These kind of quirks make this a really fun aircraft to fly.

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1 hour ago, regis9 said:

Thanks for the info on the slats.  I’m actually experiencing this all well, my first two flights after I’m airborne and climbing from the runway, I turn in the autopilot and VNAV and it wants to lawn dart me - the vertical speed on the autopilot panel quickly drops to around -300l from.  I’m going to do another flight here momentarily but I seem to recall VNAV was not entering climb mode when I first turn on the autopilot.  I’m guessing there’s some required parameters for VNAV climb to engage that I’m missing?

These kind of quirks make this a really fun aircraft to fly.


couple things need to be in place:
Proper FMS entries in regards to performance, and flight plan and you need TO or TO/FLX selected on the auto throttle mode panel.

1.) ensure your initial altitude is in the autopilot panel AND you have to activate it, not just bug it. Left click the altitude adjustment knob to pull it out. Your FMA should show that alt now in orange on the armed section (second box of the FMA). Pitch mode should show alt hold, roll mode should show hdg hold, speed box should be set for v2+10..

2.) hold the brakes, hit the Toga button on the throttle and throttle up to 1.4 EPR. Once there and stabilized switch the auto throttle switch on the mcp to on. Release brakes 

3.) Speed mode on the FMA will show epr, than CLMP passing 60 knots. leave throttles in place unless you need to reject the takeoff.

4.) rotate when appropriate, passing 400 feet arm NAV mode on the mcp (unless you are flying vectors etc, be smart here), select climb thrust on the auto throttle mode panel. Arm VNAV on the mcp.

5.) once settled and following the flight director activate the AP. And you should be set.

this is one of those planes where you can’t get sloppy and skip steps. It all needs to be done in order. 
 

also check out the chucks guide. It is an amazing bit of pdf goodness that really helps with the flow of things.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, CaptainNick said:


couple things need to be in place:
Proper FMS entries in regards to performance, and flight plan and you need TO or TO/FLX selected on the auto throttle mode panel.

1.) ensure your initial altitude is in the autopilot panel AND you have to activate it, not just bug it. Left click the altitude adjustment knob to pull it out. Your FMA should show that alt now in orange on the armed section (second box of the FMA). Pitch mode should show alt hold, roll mode should show hdg hold, speed box should be set for v2+10..

2.) hold the brakes, hit the Toga button on the throttle and throttle up to 1.4 EPR. Once there and stabilized switch the auto throttle switch on the mcp to on. Release brakes 

3.) Speed mode on the FMA will show epr, than CLMP passing 60 knots. leave throttles in place unless you need to reject the takeoff.

4.) rotate when appropriate, passing 400 feet arm NAV mode on the mcp (unless you are flying vectors etc, be smart here), select climb thrust on the auto throttle mode panel. Arm VNAV on the mcp.

5.) once settled and following the flight director activate the AP. And you should be set.

this is one of those planes where you can’t get sloppy and skip steps. It all needs to be done in order. 
 

also check out the chucks guide. It is an amazing bit of pdf goodness that really helps with the flow of things.

 

 

To add to this, it helps to map a button to the TOGA command. This will cause TAK OFF | TAK OFF to appear on the FMA, and the the flight director to show approx a 10 degree pitch up command. Pressing the TOGA button on the VC throttle will do the same thing, but a hardware button is easier. Don’t advance the throttles unless you see that FMA annunciation and FD pitch command.

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2 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

To add to this, it helps to map a button to the TOGA command. This will cause TAK OFF | TAK OFF to appear on the FMA, and the the flight director to show approx a 10 degree pitch up command. Pressing the TOGA button on the VC throttle will do the same thing, but a hardware button is easier. Don’t advance the throttles unless you see that FMA annunciation and FD pitch command.

Do you know how TOGA button called in MSFS? I couldn't find it!

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I will look tomorrow. It is definitely there.

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6 hours ago, regis9 said:

Thanks for the info on the slats.  I’m actually experiencing this all well, my first two flights after I’m airborne and climbing from the runway, I turn in the autopilot and VNAV and it wants to lawn dart me - the vertical speed on the autopilot panel quickly drops to around -300l from.  I’m going to do another flight here momentarily but I seem to recall VNAV was not entering climb mode when I first turn on the autopilot.  I’m guessing there’s some required parameters for VNAV climb to engage that I’m missing?

These kind of quirks make this a really fun aircraft to fly.

Hm CLB thrust set is the only one coming to mind. Did you arm the altitude by pulling the altitude selector? There should be an orange ALT on the little monitor right in front of you (to the left of „NAV TRK“)

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

9 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

That's the same in the real plane. FMS override only works when slats are out.

Not sure this is correct. FMS OVRD provides means to select either an Indicated Airspeed or Mach number. Not sure how often you want to fly mach with slats extended.

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"The FMS override features allows the flight crew to manually set the speed while remaining in VNAV mode. The FMS override mode is engaged by pushing the FMS OVRD button on the FGCP.
When in the FMS override mode, the Speed/Mach Select Knob on the FGCP allows selection of the desired speed. When in the FMS override mode:
- The selected speed is displayed in the FGCP Speed/Mach Readout.
- The FMS throttle window annunciates OVRD followed by the selected speed."

 

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