9 hours ago, phbordini said:

Just made the first flight with Maddog and feels like a spaceship with its unique systems and weird alarms. Such a immersive experience. Do we have a freighter model included? 

No freighter at this stage, only the standard MD-82 is modelled in this initial release.

3 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

Do they work for you, though?

As I reported yesterday, those options in load manager do not work for me at all.

Rob, you must click on the "Save & Sync" or "Save & exit" button on the upper right side of the Load Manager after choosing your cockpit state.

Edited May 1, 20224 yr by David Roch

15 hours ago, 40track said:

The Cockpit texture is in better shape than that Youtube vid showed. Happy days finally.

Yes, that's true.
That's why I couldn't resist clicking on the purchase button after some hesitations (...).
And I don't regret it, it looks and flies beautifully.
This bird reminds me my first professional flights on the elegant French "Caravelle" long time ago. We were 3 folks in the cockpit, all of us wearing heavy wool socks because it was so freezing inside, with nasty air flows coming from the AC directly on our legs! 😄

Such a nice time when pilots were indeed flying and not just monitoring computers.

1 hour ago, David Roch said:

Rob, as far as I remember from the P3D version, you must click on the "Save & Sync" or "Save & exit" button on the upper right side of the Load Manager after choosing your cockpit state.

Thanks David. 

That part of the load manager looks exactly the same in the MSFS version, and I definitely tried both of those. It just reverts to the default menu item in the load manager when I do so. So I can select "ready for takeoff" in the load manager, but then when I action the necessary "save and sync" or "save and exit", the menu item reverts to "DO NOT CHANGE", and nothing is different in the sim. I've tried selecting this both before launching and immediately after the sim starts and I'm in the aircraft at the gate.  

I'm wondering if - like my dual engine spool down issue - it's tied to hardware controls, specifically the Honeycomb Alpha yoke in this instance or possibly my throttle quadrant. 

If I'm selecting a menu option that doesn't match the hardware state, perhaps that menu option is not selectable (sim and hardware out of sync).

So far, all I get is 1. engines off and battery on if I start at the gate, or 2. engines running if I start on the runway (similar to default MSFS behaviour, though a noted it hasn't been a full C&D at the gate). 

More testing required! 

Edit: I flew her until 0700 this morning, then decided a nap was appropriate. Back to it now. Load manager is now properly setting aircraft states. No issues. <shrug> First day jitters, I did change the hardware controls but I think the computer just needed a reboot and now load manager and sim craft are talking as they should. 🙂

Edited May 1, 20224 yr by OzWhitey

5 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Yes, that's true.
That's why I couldn't resist clicking on the purchase button after some hesitations (...).
And I don't regret it, it looks and flies beautifully.
This bird reminds me my first professional flights on the elegant French "Caravelle" long time ago. We were 3 folks in the cockpit, all of us wearing heavy wool socks because it was so freezing inside, with nasty air flows coming from the AC directly on our legs! 😄

Such a nice time when pilots were indeed flying and not just monitoring computers.

David, how do you rate the feeling of flight for the MSFS version versus the P3D one? Which one comes closer to feeling like you're actually flying an airliner in your opinion? 

30 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Yes, that's true.
That's why I couldn't resist clicking on the purchase button after some hesitations (...).
And I don't regret it, it looks and flies beautifully.
This bird reminds me my first professional flights on the elegant French "Caravelle" long time ago. We were 3 folks in the cockpit, all of us wearing heavy wool socks because it was so freezing inside, with nasty air flows coming from the AC directly on our legs! 😄

Such a nice time when pilots were indeed flying and not just monitoring computers.

Dad worked for Qantas so we got free tickets worldwide.Only 744 back in the 80's/90's. That's the closest we got to the pit. Wow never knew that about them. Any idea why they did have that issue? Good for you guys persisting in that environment.  

Yeah no regrets here. It actually looks so much like the real thing. Ok maybe just very small tweaks but if left it looks fine. I can see where my AUD money went toward.

Edited May 1, 20224 yr by 40track

13 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

David, how do you rate the feeling of flight for the MSFS version versus the P3D one? Which one comes closer to feeling like you're actually flying an airliner in your opinion? 

I just performed a maiden short flight and she hand-flies smoothly and heavily, maybe better than in P3D but its too soon actually to give you a decent answer.

18 minutes ago, David Roch said:

I just performed a maiden short flight and she hand-flies smoothly and heavily, maybe better than in P3D but its too soon actually to give you a decent answer.

Even a "first impressions" opinion is interesting. Most people are just comparing the flight models to GA aircraft or other home sims, so I'm always interested to hear the thoughts of anyone who's flown an airliner. So thanks, and let us know what you think after you've given her a decent fly! 🙂

18 hours ago, simon747 said:

Maybe a daft question; I seem to have very slow pushback's; are there any chocks are something that I have to remove?  I use the default MSFS pushback and it is SLOW with brakes off etc

Turn on the red anti-collision light switch to remove the chocks. I’m not sure if the default shift-P pushback will work with chocks in place, but it might explain why it is slow.

but they wanted study level now complain that it doesnt fly like a R/C toy. 

5 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

From 3 flights, I’ve got two engine shutdowns (bug, when you push the esc key and have an axis set to mixture-idle cutoff) 

I’m a very forgiving simmer, so I’m not yet ready to really blame the devs for any of the above. The engine shutdowns are an interaction between a deficiency in the sim and the plane, hopefully can be coded around.

That is not a bug, and it is not any kind of deficiency in the sim that needs to be coded around. The aircraft is deliberately designed to use mixture control levers (if present) to control the engine fuel shutoff levers. It’s been that way since the FSX version of the Maddog. The “deficiency” is that they don’t mention this in the introductory document, though I believe the 2-volume operating manual mentions it.

I have a six-lever quadrant, and keep the mixtures at idle cutoff when loading the MD80 cold and dark. At the appropriate time during the engine start sequence (20 percent N2) I move the onside mixture lever to full rich and it moves the MD80 fuel lever to full up and the engine starts. At the end of a flight, with APU power established, I pull both mixture levers to cutoff and the engines shutdown.

If you don’t want your quadrant’s mixture controls to have any unwanted effect on the MD-80 you can un-assign them in the MSFS controller menu, but why not use them if available? It’s one less on-screen mouse manipulation you need to do - especially during engine start when you need to use the mouse on the overhead console to hold the engine starter switch in the “on” position. 

Edited May 1, 20224 yr by JRBarrett

I bought the plane but won't be able to fly for a couple days.  I'm encouraged to hear that it seems to be a joy to fly and less fake feeling than some of the other stock msfs planes.  

31 minutes ago, wiler said:

but they wanted study level now complain that it doesnt fly like a R/C toy. 

Apart from the awful syntax - Who is "they"? And who complained it doesn't fly like a toy?

I'm yet to see anyone say he doesn't like the Maddog because it's "too deep" or "too realistic".
Me I'm here to help, if people ask, I try to help. To me it seems very positive here in this thread.

1 minute ago, Fiorentoni said:

Apart from the awful syntax - Who is "they"? And who complained it doesn't fly like a toy?

I'm yet to see anyone say he doesn't like the Maddog because it's "too deep" or "too realistic".
Me I'm here to help, if people ask, I try to help. To me it seems very positive here in this thread.

Sounds like an add-on I should seriously consider.

2 hours ago, David Roch said:

Yes, that's true.
That's why I couldn't resist clicking on the purchase button after some hesitations (...).
And I don't regret it, it looks and flies beautifully.
This bird reminds me my first professional flights on the elegant French "Caravelle" long time ago. We were 3 folks in the cockpit, all of us wearing heavy wool socks because it was so freezing inside, with nasty air flows coming from the AC directly on our legs! 😄

Such a nice time when pilots were indeed flying and not just monitoring computers.

Great read David love the bird nice for a change and had this one back in the FSX days so easy to pick up everything and flows🙂