4 minutes ago, shamrockflyer said:

I cannot wait for the A310 either. Can't wait to get some Iran to Asia long hauls in, in the 310. I love the classic aircraft and I am thrilled that the A310 is ini's first choice for MSFS. Hopefully the A300 won't be too far off when the 310 releases. From what I've seen and heard, it is outstanding in X-Plane.

Indeed! Current A310 operators/routes are listed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A310, looks like the mideast/Asia is the focal area. 

While we wait, I guess there's the FSElite teaser https://fselite.net/content/inibuilds-teasing-the-a310-for-msfs-2/, and also a recent review of A310 for XP11 which should give us good clues as to how it'll be in MSFS: https://fsnews.eu/review-inibuilds-a310-on-the-line-for-x-plane-11/

On 6/6/2022 at 1:16 AM, pmb said:

....

ii) Buying future addons for all sims. This would require me being a millionaire which I, unfortunately, am not.

 

You can't buy time.

20 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

As does your point. 

From what I have seen of XP12, it looks like a cracking upgrade from 11 - lighting, weather, sound, water and ATC are looking promising.  I am currently at LOWI, which should be pouring with rain, but live weather is clear, yet I would not call MSFS a joke.

Yeah for 2005 it looks decent but it is 2022. 

7 hours ago, flying_carpet said:

By the way, when was MSFS 2020 published? In August 2020, right?

So are you implying that I am newer to flight simming but you have been in flight simming longer? Why highlight my join date? But since you are highlighting my join date, maybe I should highlight your join date:

February of 2022.  I also counted that you have about 64 posts in total, of which 51 of your 64 posts are here in the MSFS forums (or almost 80% of your Avsim posts are here in the MSFS forum) . For someone that has only been on Avsim for 4 months (but is harping on me being an Avsim member for almost 2 years), you sure are very, very active here in the MSFS forums, especially almost spending almost 80% of your Avsim posts in the MSFS forum, including many posts telling us how XP is better than MSFS.  

Also, I have said that I was out of flight simming for over 10 years, after FSX.  My last flight sim before MSFS was FSX.  I am on record for saying this before on AVSIM, so it's nothing new.

During the 10 years I was out of flight simming, I kept checking up the latest updates of P3D and XPlane.  Yes, I was considering buying P3D or XPlane before MSFS came out, but neither flight sim were enough to pull me back into flight simming until MSFS - I am also on record in AVSIM saying this before. 

And when XP 12 previews came out, you can even find comments where I said XP 12 is starting to look like modern graphics, a compliment of XP 12 (but from the XP 12 previews I have seen, the graphics are still behind MSFS).  So I in fact, complimented some of the previews of XP 12.

And if you read my comments enough, you will also see that I have said that I am more than willing to jump ship from MSFS, if a better and cheaper flight simulator comes out (the competition to MSFS is  definitely not cheaper than MSFS, if you consider all the add-ons you have to buy to bring the graphics up to speed, plus buying an extra hard drive to store ortho).

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

6 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

You seem to be trying too hard to impress us with XP and failing spectacularly at it. Seems to be quite clear that's the sim you much prefer so shouldn't you be over on that rather vibrant forum discussing away? Or maybe actually flying in XP striking birds, coming in and out of consciousness with all that hypoxia modelling, then avoiding dangerous microbursts (and birds) all while simulating hundreds of failures on those default aircrafts? Not quite sure what you think your constant pontificating on what XP has that MSFS doesn't, on this forum, actually does :))
 

I agree with @lwt1971. @flying_carpet, you seem to be very biased in your discussions here. I think you would be better off at the XP forums as well, so we can keep this thread on track without it being locked (it's bad enough @flying_carpet that you spend almost 80% of your posts in AVSIM, just here in the MSFS forums, including many posts telling us how XP is better than MSFS, I think you should post more in the XP forums to balance out your MSFS to XP forum posts).   

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

Anyways, back on this topic of iniBuilds focusing on MSFS:

On 6/7/2022 at 9:20 AM, DaWu said:

Inibuilds has no choice. Xp is dead and xp12 looks like a joke. If they want to keep business running they must sell in msfs. 

I agree that if iniBuilds is looking to make more money, the money seems to be in MSFS right now, and possibly the future as well.  I suspect iniBuild's products so far have sold quite well in MSFS, and this is why they keep announcing one new product after another new product in MSFS.

 

10 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

The "cult behavior" Claviateur is referring to the XP posters in the XP forum. How can you ignore Claviateur's statement?

I must make claim to be to be the first person to use the term 'cult' to describe the religiosity of some of the most fervent X-Plane devotees. It did not make me popular! 

It was back in the days of the (actually very enjoyable) six month Vulkan beta when the disciples ruthlessly policed X-Plane.org where they would stamp out even the most mildest of comments and criticism. Any issues were always user error, using a shader mod or suchlike. CTD was a word not allowed. Literally.  Only praise was acceptable or your fate was sealed. Heretics were drummed out. Meyer was performing a miracle before our very eyes. It is of course this Cult of Meyer which persists to this day.

People have to understand that it is futile to argue with a true believer.😀

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by jarmstro

8 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

C'mon, that's hitting below the belt. I'm sure @abrams_tank means no harm. Besides, we were discussing... Oh dear, I forgot. 

Perhaps it's time for the inquisition to end? Or if that's not possible, maybe you can settle on "agree to disagree"?

FWIW, an influx of 2020 users who immediatly came to the x-plane & p3d forums to trash them while never tried them (just like @abrams_tankadmited), imo, is no coincidence. 

Generally Avsim is feeling every day more and more as an infulencers place.

You bet there are many silent users around here who feel there is as an awful game going around regarding MSFS influencers, and even some of the MSFS developers feel that, just look at the recent behavior towards some of the FBW guys...who god forbid dared to mention inaccuracies in the fenix and hurt those infulencers efforts. Same applies to some of the FSLlabs around here, and many other developers who feel the same.

Meanwhile, they are giving Ubaid Mussa (ini CEO) quotes as a proof, while the man is not even a developer himself.

Lets give an example from this thread; No one noticed @abrams_tank selective information? Because ini, just very recently, announced another x-plane product....in the very same post he selectevly quoted.

He may have missed, but If it happens all the time, something stinks. Just like after the navigraph survey, he opens a thread here + p3d forum + in the x-plane forum. Why?  Because "he is genuinly interested" BS? Then why all his news is one sided and selectivly quoted? Why when the developer of CL659 mentions they cant bring their stuff to MSFS they are ridiculed? Why are real airliner pilots are ridiculed who has an opposite opinion about MSFS as well and he has to look for some youtube infulencers to suggest otherwise? Why when flytampa mentioned MSFS low prices did not yield in many more sales unlike @abrams_tank always say he did not open a thread? Why when x-plane developers state that their sales did not hurt, despite MSFS and despite higher prices, is not news worthy for the guy who is only interested in busniess talk? Why then he did not come to the p3d/x-plane forums open threads about his busniess major BS if it hurts his agenda?

Some thinking to do...

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by mtaxp

2 hours ago, jarmstro said:

I must make claim to be to be the first person to use the term 'cult' to describe the religiosity of some of the most fervent X-Plane devotees. It did not make me popular! 

It was back in the days of the (actually very enjoyable) six month Vulkan beta when the disciples ruthlessly policed X-Plane.org where they would stamp out even the most mildest of comments and criticism. Any issues were always user error, using a shader mod or suchlike. CTD was a word not allowed. Literally.  Only praise was acceptable or your fate was sealed. Heretics were drummed out. Meyer was performing a miracle before our very eyes. It is of course this Cult of Meyer which persists to this day.

People have to understand that it is futile to argue with a true believer.😀

I'm not a fan of the org whatsoever in fact not active there since a very long time, but from what I see I suspect you get everything you personally deserve. Lets just say, you are prime example of being uneducated and rude regarding many topics. Sometimes better to let go rather tahn dig your own hole even further, and that is suffice to say.

 

 

54 minutes ago, mtaxp said:

FWIW, an influx of 2020 users who immediatly came to the x-plane & p3d forums to trash them while never tried them (just like @abrams_tankadmited), imo, is no coincidence. 

Generally Avsim is feeling every day more and more as an infulencers place.

You bet there are many silent users around here who feel there is as an awful game going around regarding MSFS influencers, and even some of the MSFS developers feel that, just look at the recent behavior towards some of the FBW guys...who god forbid dared to mention inaccuracies in the fenix and hurt those infulencers efforts. Same applies to some of the FSLlabs around here, and many other developers who feel the same.

Meanwhile, they are giving Ubaid Mussa (ini CEO) quotes as a proof, while the man is not even a developer himself.

Lets give an example from this thread; No one noticed @abrams_tank selective information? Because ini, just very recently, announced another x-plane product....in the very same post he selectevly quoted.

He may have missed, but If it happens all the time, something stinks. Just like after the navigraph survey, he opens a thread here + p3d forum + in the x-plane forum. Why?  Because "he is genuinly interested" BS? Then why all his news is one sided and selectivly quoted? Why when the developer of CL659 mentions they cant bring their stuff to MSFS they are ridiculed? Why are real airliner pilots are ridiculed who has an opposite opinion about MSFS as well and he has to look for some youtube infulencers to suggest otherwise? Why when flytampa mentioned MSFS low prices did not yield in many more sales unlike @abrams_tank always say he did not open a thread? Why when x-plane developers state that their sales did not hurt, despite MSFS and despite higher prices, is not news worthy for the guy who is only interested in busniess talk? Why then he did not come to the p3d/x-plane forums open threads about his busniess major BS if it hurts his agenda?

Some thinking to do...

And here is @mtaxp derailing yet another thread in the MSFS forums.  Here is @mtaxp derailing a thread here in MSFS, and being warned by a moderator for derailing a thread: 

This was the second time that @mtaxp derailed a thread in the span of two days in the MSFS forum.  Here you can see @mtaxpderail a thread one day prior: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/618983-sim-vs-real/?do=findComment&comment=4772913

And you will notice @mtaxp also spends a lot of time in the MSFS forums. On May 22nd, I did a count of his last 100 posts and about 1/3 of his last 100 posts were in the MSFS forum (I didn't do a count of his MSFS posts since then so I don't know how often he spends posting in the MSFS forums now):

 

@mtaxp, I would ask you stop following my posts, and stop responding to my posts. I blocked you last year.  Seems like blocking you isn't enough, you keep following me around in the MSFS forums (not the XP forums or P3D forums or whatever forums), and replying to my posts and starting nasty exchanges like this one, here in the MSFS forums. Please stop following me and @ me. It's not normal, especially after I blocked you last year but you keep appearing in threads I create (I stayed silent in this thread for some time, hoping you had disappeared, but as soon as I thought you had disappeared and stopped paying attention to this thread, when I make a few posts, you appear again to talk about me - just stop it, you are creepy and this isn't normal behavior).

 

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

@abrams_tank thank you for pointing out an already derailed threads that I joined🤣

in the second link you gave, you are even the one who started it:

More selective quoting, Self awareness😅

Almost seems like an agent got burned...

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by mtaxp

14 minutes ago, mtaxp said:

@abrams_tank than you for pointing out an already derailed threads that I joined🤣

in the second link you gave, you are even the one who started it:

Self awareness😅

And Ray Proudfoot told you to ignore such statements, did he not?  

BTW, I stand by what I said.  Having photogrammetry & satellite for the entire world, including a company like Blackshark AI converting 2D objects to 3D objects, is a big reason why I think MSFS is superior to XP. And that's why those screenshots look so good, IMO.  It was a celebration of what MSFS has achieved, that its competitor hasn't.

But this is my opinion.  In fact, you can see 8 people liked and 3 other people upvoted my comment, so they tend to agree with my opinion.

That comment does not warrant derailing a thread, in the manner that you did. I did not say anything demeaning against you.

I simply made my opinion of why I think MSFS is better than XP, and I even justified my opinion with a concrete example.  The problem is you, who reads such an opinion like that, and can derail an entire thread just like that. 

Like if I said something demeaning towards you, I can understand why you would get so flustered.  I did not. That was my opinion on why I think MSFS is better, which is normal, given this is the MSFS forums (for those who don't know, that topic was originally posted here in the MSFS forums, before it was moved to the screenshots forum).

Anyways, I ask you a second time @mtaxp, can you stop following me around in the MSFS forums here and replying to every post I make?  I would appreciate it if you stop following me around in the MSFS forum and commenting on my posts.  Like I said, you are very creepy, and I hate to ask someone to stop following my posts and replying to my posts (especially after I blocked you last year and I try my hardest to avoid you), but you are out of control and I can't stop you.

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

9 minutes ago, mtaxp said:

@abrams_tank thank you for pointing out an already derailed threads that I joined🤣

in the second link you gave, you are even the one who started it:

More selective quoting, Self awareness😅

Almost seems like an agent got burned...

You derailed that thread

4 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

And Ray Proudfoot told you to ignore such statements, did he not?  

BTW, I stand by what I said.  Having photogrammetry & satellite for the entire world, including a company like Blackshark AI converting 2D objects to 3D objects, is a big reason why I think MSFS is superior to XP.

But this is my opinion.  In fact, you can see 8 people liked and 3 other people upvoted my comment, so they tend to agree with my opinion.

That comment does not warrant derailing a thread, in the manner that you did. I did not say anything demeaning against you.

I simply made my opinion of why I think MSFS is better than XP, and I even justified my opinion with an concrete example.  The problem is you, who reads such an opinion like that, and can derail an entire thread just like that. 

Like if I said something demeaning towards you, I can understand why you would get so flustered.  I did not. That was my opinion on why I think MSFS is better, which is normal, given this is the MSFS forums.

And I simply gave my opinion on your opinion🤔😂🤣 which is normal since I tried MSFS AND x-plane, unlike you.

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by mtaxp

1 minute ago, Krakin said:

You derailed that thread

If pro x-plane comment- derailed.

If anti x-plane comment- kudos for the very lucrative discussion.

Gotcha😅

Edited June 8, 20223 yr by mtaxp