The Fenix aircraft was developed from ProSimA320 base code. It would be interesting see a Fenix B737 verison integrating ProSim737 base code in MSFS2020.

Anyone else would be interested in this product?

 

https://prosim-ar.com/prosim737/

Edited June 6, 20223 yr by polosim

No

Most likely no. I'd love to see Fenix specialize in finishing the Airbus A320 series.

Yup most likely they go on to use the existing codebase to implement and flesh out the A320 CEO series and then perhaps the A319/A321.  I have a hope they'll consider doing some Airbus long haulers like the A330 in the future but not sure if it's feasible/possible to build that out from the ProSim A320 codebase, most probably will require a write from the ground up (which might be doable given all their experience gained).

As much as it would likely be more highly featured, I'd rather stick with PMDG for the 737, as 22 FPS is tough in the Fenix A320.    And that is with most MSFS settings set to LOW.   I do have a mid-range system, but in the PMDG I get 40+ FPS with almost all MSFS settings to HIGH.   I know it's down to CPU cycles and although my GPU performs great for it's age, I believe any CPU with a clock speed below 4.2 - 4.5Ghz just cannot manage the Fenix.   Certainly not if your requirement is 34+ FPS for smooth TrackIR use.

Edited June 6, 20223 yr by JYW

I don’t think the business case is there.  PMDG already does “study level” so at best this would just peel off a fraction of consumers interested in a 737.  Sales would be substantially lower than their A320 series for almost the same level of effort.

Unlike most people on this thread, I'm looking forward to an alternative 737 that's not from PMDG.
However, unless someone comes out of left field, I think it's going to be iFly, which means quite a wait.

I feel that Fenix's best business case is the A318, A319 ceo and A321 ceo, with possibly the A330 or A350 in the distant future, if they can obtain the necessary data.

PMDG 737  LNAV/VNAV is really bad, while Prosim NAV systems in the Fenix A320 feel accurate and rock solid.  PMDG have said they are coming out with a new LNAV/VNAV module.  Hopefully that will bring it up to a standard that is accurate to the real plane (and Prosim).   Besides this, the PMDG trim system is really buggered.  Flightdeck3sim will show you that on his latest stream.

While a competitor for PMDG would be good, I'd like Fenix to concentrate on expanding the Airbus series, that is: IAE, Sharklets, 321, 319, neo, 330... the market is wide open for those, unlike the 737 which will be pretty saturated and to a good quality level.

One 737 in P3D was enough for me. I am really enjoying the Fenix A 320. 

Oh please noooo... no more 737's oh god nooooooo

737 MAX might sell, but they'd have to beat PMDG to it, so no.

14 hours ago, F737MAX said:

Unlike most people on this thread, I'm looking forward to an alternative 737 that's not from PMDG.
However, unless someone comes out of left field, I think it's going to be iFly, which means quite a wait.

I feel that Fenix's best business case is the A318, A319 ceo and A321 ceo, with possibly the A330 or A350 in the distant future, if they can obtain the necessary data.

I don't think iFly should do a 737 for MSFS, from the perspective of their sales (not the perspective of MSFS users like us, who don't care if iFly makes a loss).  The sales would be poor because PMDG already did a 737.

iFly is on a timer for MSFS.  PMDG will eventually come out with the 777 and 747 as well.  iFly needs to target a plane where there is no competition.  Even the Fenix A320, as well as it sold in MSFS, lost a lot of sales because of the FBW A320 (Fenix also had to price their A320 lower in MSFS because of the FBW A320, which was free).

Edited June 7, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

Just now, abrams_tank said:

I don't think iFly should do a 737 for MSFS.  The sales would be poor because PMDG already did a 737.

iFly is on a timer for MSFS.  PMDG will eventually come out with the 777 and 747 as well.  iFly needs to target a plane where there is no competition.  Even the Fenix A320, as well as it sold in MSFS, lost a lot of sales because of the FBW A320.

That's a view and you're certainly entitled to it.
I don't like monopolies as they create complacency and poor customer relations. Competition brings about new ideas, improvements, and better consumer pricing - there's plenty to improve upon in the Boeing offerings thus far for MSFS.

iFly has stated that there is demand for their products in P3D still. It's not a market leader amount, but it's enough to keep them happy to continue developing. No reason why this cannot be the case for them with MSFS.
I'd like for there to be a choice of Boeings, because I don't want to buy PMDG's.

15 hours ago, JYW said:

As much as it would likely be more highly featured, I'd rather stick with PMDG for the 737, as 22 FPS is tough in the Fenix A320.    And that is with most MSFS settings set to LOW.   I do have a mid-range system, but in the PMDG I get 40+ FPS with almost all MSFS settings to HIGH.   I know it's down to CPU cycles and although my GPU performs great for it's age, I believe any CPU with a clock speed below 4.2 - 4.5Ghz just cannot manage the Fenix.   Certainly not if your requirement is 34+ FPS for smooth TrackIR use.

I have a mid range system and in the Fenix I am getting almost 50 FPS, with most settings on high and a couple on Ultra and medium.