7 hours ago, Holdit said:

Yes indeed. Not sure why that's the case.

I think that's because the Standard Edition C172 only comes with the G1000 variant.  Whereas the Deluxe/Premium has a steam gauge C172 included.

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

Cons

Also, it doesn't start like the real thing, or the A2A version, which I hoped it would do. But with battery and fuel pump on, setting mixture to rich does not show any fuel flow at all, so priming still is make believe like the default C172. Also, the engine doesn't start with mixture at idle cutoff after priming.,.

6 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

Also, it doesn't start like the real thing, or the A2A version, which I hoped it would do. But with battery and fuel pump on, setting mixture to rich does not show any fuel flow at all, so priming still is make believe like the default C172. Also, the engine doesn't start with mixture at idle cutoff after priming.,.

Not sure what you mean "But with battery" Hand prop with hot wired mags? I was actually able to start it without reading manual just like I using conventional method. I did have to crank throttle little more! On flip side at least you don't have to deal with primer! LOL However, after reading manual I found this:

START PROCEDURE DOES NOT EXACTLY MATCH THE POH, TO BE CORRECTED IN A FUTURE UPDATE

2 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Windows/doors can't be opened

I think I'll wait for a version that actually includes a model.  I know it's my OCD kicking in; but I always feel claustrophobic in the default models.

2 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

 

Cons

- Turn in off ALT on master switch doesn't show discharge on ammeter (only pulling ALT circuit breaker does)

 

That's the only major thing I've found so far. Probably just a mis-type in a line of code.

55 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Not sure what you mean "But with battery"

I should have written 'with master switch'

56 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

START PROCEDURE DOES NOT EXACTLY MATCH THE POH, TO BE CORRECTED IN A FUTURE UPDATE

Ok, should have read the manual more carefully before purchasing, lol. Awaiting the update then 😊

10 hours ago, jimcarrel said:

Drats!!! I broke my #1 rule -- don't upgrade MSFS 2020 original edition purchased. I must have had a childhood trauma of some sort. I upgraded, absolutely pointless action (except I now have a steam gauge 172) How will I ever forgive myself for my weakness? I know, I will force myself to see if the whole reason for this thread is worth the pain and misery.

On the plus side, depending whether you went premium or deluxe, the Baron is quite acceptable and the Pipistrel Virus is a bit of a hidden gem..

I wish this developer (just flight is only the publisher if i’m correct?), gets picked up by Microsoft, just like Working Title, to further enhance all the default GA aircraft in MSFS.

Correct engine (startup) behavior, wear&tear, working circuit breakers etc. really makes these planes come alive, imho.

Also keeping my fingers crossed the Bonanza and Baron are also on the roadmap to get steam gauges. ;-)

 

I have been waiting for this.  It is a bit like the C172 enhancement pack in Xplane.  I think it's a great idea.  Not perfect or complete yet, but as stated above, more to come.

This sim is a bit of a paradox for me now, as I love the steam gauge version of the C172, but I also love the G1000 version, especially now it has the WT NXi update.

57 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

I have been waiting for this.  It is a bit like the C172 enhancement pack in Xplane.  I think it's a great idea.  Not perfect or complete yet, but as stated above, more to come.

This sim is a bit of a paradox for me now, as I love the steam gauge version of the C172, but I also love the G1000 version, especially now it has the WT NXi update.

Very much so. The Simcoders REPs in X-PLane elevate default aircraft and Carenado aircraft to almost study-level. It's a wonderful idea that sadly never came to P3D but hopefully will come to MSFS so that simmers don't have to wait for someone like A2A to decide to do an aircraft for it to get the five-star treatment.

The XP11 default 172 REP adjusts the steam gauge AND the G1000. The helps me since I'm not mad about the G1000 cockpit, but better modelling of its functionality gives me more of a reason to fly it.

Edited August 25, 20223 yr by Holdit

12 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

- normal take off flaps up - little bit nose heavy on lift off at 55 kts (more like 182 than 172), but I guess it's ok. Most 172 N/P/R/S two people full tank will require to trim down little bit to maintain Vy 73-76 kts or 80 kts

For some reason the SOP in our 172S calls for F10 departures, which makes the plane very tail-heavy if you depart with standard T.O trim. Big difference from our older pipers, for sure. 🤡

2 hours ago, Andre92 said:

I wish this developer (just flight is only the publisher if i’m correct?), gets picked up by Microsoft, just like Working Title, to further enhance all the default GA aircraft in MSFS.

Correct engine (startup) behavior, wear&tear, working circuit breakers etc. really makes these planes come alive, imho.

Also keeping my fingers crossed the Bonanza and Baron are also on the roadmap to get steam gauges. 😉

 

The Bonanza seems very possible, maybe as part of the Black Square Steam Gauge Enhancements but the locked model files of the Baron seem to make that one very difficult (there's not even an unlocked version you could try porting some files across from)

5 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

On the plus side, depending whether you went premium or deluxe, the Baron is quite acceptable and the Pipistrel Virus is a bit of a hidden gem..

Always nice to see I'm not the only person who loves the Pipistrel 🙂

1 hour ago, Holdit said:

It's a wonderful idea that sadly never came to P3D but hopefully will come to MSFS so that simmers don't have to wait for someone like A2A to decide to do an aircraft for it to get the five-star treatment.

I keep hearing that A2A is the crème de la crème of aircraft addons, so if they ever relase something on MSFS my expectations will be sky-high, lol (I've never used P3D). 

11 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I keep hearing that A2A is the crème de la crème of aircraft addons, so if they ever relase something on MSFS my expectations will be sky-high, lol (I've never used P3D). 

That's not just a rumour.   Check out some of their videos too see the kind of (almost obsessive) attention to detail they bring to their creations, e.g. 

 

The only problem with them is that their releases are so infrequent, and they might no cover the aircraft you like e,g, I know their Comanche is a great product, but I just can't warm to thal panel so I've never bought it. Thankfully they also have the Bonanza V35 in the complex sngle space.