Does anyone recall the fact that the Aerosoft's P3D buses had their FBW systems 'clocked' by the sim's frame rate. Hence, (and it was never admitted by Aerosoft) should a sudden fps drop be encountered, for example, after an injection of AI around busy airports, their flight would become so erratic, that they would literally fall out of the sky.

The situation could be mitigated to a certain extent by hitting the pause button and waiting a few seconds for things to cool down. However, turn your back on them, then they would bite you up the...

Notwithstanding, I thought that that the pbr textures in the A330 were absolutely divine and looked spectacular with a low setting sun reflecting off of the forward panel. 

 

1 hour ago, garydpoole said:

Does anyone recall the fact that the Aerosoft's P3D buses had their FBW systems 'clocked' by the sim's frame rate. Hence, (and it was never admitted by Aerosoft) should a sudden fps drop be encountered, for example, after an injection of AI around busy airports, their flight would become so erratic, that they would literally fall out of the sky.

I sure do, I think they actually went as far to defend it as an intentional design decision and saw no issue with it.

The P3D version of this was frustrating for me, between the FPS issue above and the regular CTDs I got, hopefully this one is a better experience.

My CTDs with the P3D A330 were also my first experience with how nasty Aerosoft “support” can be.  I was accused of being a frequent support complainer and that my system must be unstable, despite it being one of my first support requests.  Once I very bluntly stood up for myself I did get a bit of support but in the end the aircraft remained generally unusable for me…again hopefully this time around is better but I’ll be cautious.

4 hours ago, sonny147 said:

FSL 330 would be the icing in this sim , 350 would be even better 😎

A FSL 330 is out of questions even it would be for free. AS is the only option if you care for data security and therefore I really hope AS cann pull off a good AC. The EFB is looking promising

Edited October 6, 20223 yr by DaWu

2 hours ago, garydpoole said:

Does anyone recall the fact that the Aerosoft's P3D buses had their FBW systems 'clocked' by the sim's frame rate.

Ain't this a bit of "cherry picking"?

If you had FPS issues in P3D, all ACFT had issues with the AP. The exeption was FSL because the AP calculations were made outside the SIM.

Aerosoft "defended" the issue because you had to be under 20FPS for a longer period of time which would have rendered your SIM unflyable.

You don't seam to recall how time compression would kill PMDGs AP.......

9 minutes ago, GEKtheReaper said:

Ain't this a bit of "cherry picking"?

If you had FPS issues in P3D, all ACFT had issues with the AP. The exeption was FSL because the AP calculations were made outside the SIM.

Aerosoft "defended" the issue because you had to be under 20FPS for a longer period of time which would have rendered your SIM unflyable.

You don't seam to recall how time compression would kill PMDGs AP.......

Definitely not cherry picking.
Aerosoft's Airbuses are the only P3D aircraft that would fall out of the sky during normal flight for me. And they fell out of the sky after just a second or two of FPS drop. So no, not buying their defence of their coding.

Anyway, I thought the EFB in the video I linked looked feature rich and had functionality that other aeroplane developers could try to emulate.

27 minutes ago, GEKtheReaper said:

Ain't this a bit of "cherry picking"?

If you had FPS issues in P3D, all ACFT had issues with the AP. The exeption was FSL because the AP calculations were made outside the SIM.

Aerosoft "defended" the issue because you had to be under 20FPS for a longer period of time which would have rendered your SIM unflyable.

You don't seam to recall how time compression would kill PMDGs AP.......

It's all water under the bridge now, but, no it certainly was not, "cherry picking". Their whole family of buses were the same. Unlike other a/c that may have taken a slight 'knock' during an fps 'dip' (usually lasting < 1sec), they became completely uncontrollable, appearing to suffer what those in the semi-conductor industry describe as 'thermal runway', but instead of it being heat related, it was fps related.

Aerosoft caught me once with the Otter. Will never buy from them again ... unless they dramatically change their business strategy and deliver higher aircraft quality.

On 10/5/2022 at 1:23 PM, F737MAX said:

Say what you like about Aerosoft

Nothing.

23 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Friends don't let friends buy Aerosoft planes. 

I have bought the A330 from them for P3D, Memory leak never fixed, half finished product and many issues.

Forums are full of issues from other users as well. Don´t make them aware of these issues at their support, because they will most likely "ban" you and not let you post anymore.

I am a Scrum Master from profession and a P3D Beta tester as well, and know how to communicate. But the attitude of aerosoft I won´t finance anymore!

I can only recommend users to NOT buy this and wait till FSLabs, Fenix or someone else will release a A330.

Aerosoft is a nogo for me!

M.

3 hours ago, GEKtheReaper said:

Ain't this a bit of "cherry picking"?

If you had FPS issues in P3D, all ACFT had issues with the AP. The exeption was FSL because the AP calculations were made outside the SIM.

Aerosoft "defended" the issue because you had to be under 20FPS for a longer period of time which would have rendered your SIM unflyable.

You don't seam to recall how time compression would kill PMDGs AP.......

If this is the cause and aerosoft knew this, why have they released the plane incl. a known issue and let the customers suffer from this?

No, a nogo for me. Release a product that works and also works at the platform you release it for. If that doesn´t work, do fix it, or let the platform owner fix the problem. Issues with AP on long hauls, what the Airbus A330 is designed for, is a major blocker bug!

But I don´t buy this from them, they had other issues with the product as well, many users reported same issues and they often say upfront:

Standard support feedback at Aerosoft

"IF this would be the case, TONS of users would have reported this. And this did not happen, you handfull users are probably having a corrupted or bad installation".

This is business as usual for Aerosoft. Worst support I have ever had!

M. Kok and his employees are NOT user and costumer friendly nor customer orientated. 

M. 

Edited October 6, 20223 yr by mpo910

4 hours ago, regis9 said:

my first experience with how nasty Aerosoft “support” can be

THIS is my experience as well.......Horrific support and it is always customers fault! 

Yes, of course we could have issues as well, but the tone and feedback they give at ther "Support" forum is quality as bad as it gets (my experience AND my own opinion).

You may have different experiences.....I had several different issues and the feedback was mostly horrible

4 hours ago, regis9 said:

I sure do, I think they actually went as far to defend it as an intentional design decision and saw no issue with it.

The P3D version of this was frustrating for me, between the FPS issue above and the regular CTDs I got, hopefully this one is a better experience.

My CTDs with the P3D A330 were also my first experience with how nasty Aerosoft “support” can be.  I was accused of being a frequent support complainer and that my system must be unstable, despite it being one of my first support requests.  Once I very bluntly stood up for myself I did get a bit of support but in the end the aircraft remained generally unusable for me…again hopefully this time around is better but I’ll be cautious.

Whenever you find something you think is wrong with an Aerosoft aircraft, they will tell you " that's normal". 

4 hours ago, F737MAX said:

Aerosoft's Airbuses are the only P3D aircraft that would fall out of the sky during normal flight for me.

Had all AS Busses and none of them would fall from the sky on my end.

Were they perfect? Definately not! I had recurring issues with all of them (e.g. LNAV tracking bad in some cases) but they were no blocking points for me (given the price tag).

Would I buy AS A330 if it launches same time as e.g. FENIX or FSL? Nope, I would definately go for one of the last 2 guys.

Would I buy it if it would be the only A330, definately YES!

I constantly fly the CRJs and found it to be a stable product (yup, same LNAV thing from time to time...).

Want an A330 very bad, but not Aerosoft bad. 

48 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Want an A330 very bad, but not Aerosoft bad. 

In that same boat. The Airbus A330 and the new A350 are my absolute favorite airframes and i would really love to fly them. But times have changed and i need  a more in depth and authentic experience and from the feedback I've seen of the past releases of Aerosoft I am not confident that they will deliver fully fleshed out and operational systems and a mostly bug free product. 

But when it gets released the usual flurry of reviews will come in so we will see.