Just now, RJC68 said:

I am also really happy with my 3090, I get stellar performance and with the undervolt in place she sits around 290W. it is a real shame EVGA have pulled out of the market. I really like their cards.

I will be interested to see the reviews of the 4090 especially in MSFS. If I am honest with myself I would probably swap my CPU out next year before my GPU

Are you cpu or gpu limited according to msfs?  I see you're at 4K.  I'm GPU limited most of the time at 1440P.

17 hours ago, Waldo Pepper said:

The only sign of a preorder that I've see so far is B&H Photo in NYC.  They are a brick and mortar store. They are listing,  "Preorder starts at 12am ET, Wed Oct 12"

I've done business with them online multiple times,  over the course of more than a decade.   

They have been 100% reputable,  and they've always shipped asap.   If you sign up to be notified they often drop the notifications a little before they hit the site.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=rtx 4090&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ps

Myself, I'd like to find one of the water cooled examples.

Thanks this helps, I think this is the first time I'm seeing the pricing per different partners. Why is this pricing all over the place like that? Aren't all of these 4090's the same? I didn't buy the GPU in a while, so I'm out of the loop a bit.

CPU first makes more sense, in Dev mode I need WAY more power, and even my disk speed isn't fast enough, it's mostly because in dev mode there are bugs that introduce lag because there is some type of threading issue with custom materials (something like that). It works, but sometimes you have to wait even when it is not really doing anything. When building airports, it's best you do everything in a very specific order so your PC is fast enough, but even then, I could use more speed.

When flying, I don't need any upgrades, a 3800 12GB + AMD 5800x is plenty fast enough.

 

Edited October 7, 20223 yr by Alpine Scenery

3 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Are you cpu or gpu limited according to msfs?  I see you're at 4K.  I'm GPU limited most of the time at 1440P.

Hey Ryan,

I run a custom refresh rate of 50Hz on my 4K TV, VSYNC - On in NVCP and use Riva to lock to 50fps. I typically find in this scenario my CPU & GPU timing are very similar, both around 15ms but when running live traffic I can edge into main thread limited but it doesn't really cause any issues. I find 50 fps very smooth and it still gives my hardware some headroom. I am still also switching between DX11 & DX12 as I haven't decided what I prefer. I run mainly ultra settings with clouds on high and Ambient Occlusion off. TLOD 175 & OLOD 200. 

Loving the sim right now

1 minute ago, RJC68 said:

TLOD 175 & OLOD 200. 

Loving the sim right now

Didn't see much difference with TLOD at 175 huh?

I might lower mine slightly if I go back to live traffic (right now have it all disabled).

Live traffic in busy airports is the only real gotcha once you get to a 3080+, so I guess there is THAT for people that feel they need to upgrade, though CPU will probably help more regardless.

18 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I see you're at 4K.  I'm GPU limited most of the time at 1440P.

easy trick to solve being GPU limited without buying an RTX 4090: run FSTLT at KLAX or EGLL, and suddenly your GPU limitation by that 1080ti is gone. the FSTLT developers need to learn GPU programming badly and move their code over to the GPU as much as possible. just like Asobo did with most of MSFS. otherwise we would never have seen that smooth performance on even ancient RTX 1080 Ti's that ryanbatc got from antiques or collectors stores. 😊

Edited October 7, 20223 yr by turbomax

3 minutes ago, turbomax said:

the FSTLT developers need to learn GPU programming badly and move their code over to the GPU as much as possible. just like Asobo did with most of MSFS. otherwise we would never have seen that smooth performance on even ancient RTX 1080i from  antiques and collectors stores. 😊

They are just coding SDK stuff and Sim connect and liveries basically, they have almost no control over what is going on with the rendering other than optimizing the textures and renders. They should have given the user 2 options of what texture sizes to install (as a minimum 2 options), so that was their main mistake.

They have limiters in the startup that people can use to prevent too many planes, the problem is some people aren't using the limtiers and are expecting max performance with everything max'd out. They should have given smaller texture option though.

Edited October 7, 20223 yr by Alpine Scenery

2 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

They should have given the user 2 options of what texture sizes to install (as a minimum 2 options)

exactly. hopefully they will offer such options in the next update. nothing easier than that.

18 hours ago, Hatch76 said:

I’ll honestly be surprised if 1) anyone can get one at retail and 2) it actually makes THAT much of a difference over what we’re seeing with the current cards…

I'm never GPU limited w/ maxed out settings--next upgrade for me will be to the 6ghz Raptor Lake CPU this will be the real performance improver.  Even w/ "only" 12Gb of VRAM I rarely see over 6.8Gb in use.

3 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

they have almost no control over what is going on with the rendering

but about everything else, incl. interfacing with flightradar24, filtering that data etc.

1 minute ago, Noel said:

Even w/ "only" 12Gb of VRAM I rarely see over 6.8Gb in use.

been to KLAX or EGLL @4k lately?

10 minutes ago, turbomax said:

easy trick to solve being GPU limited without buying an RTX 4090: run FSTLT at KLAX or EGLL, and suddenly your GPU limitation by that 1080ti is gone. the FSTLT developers need to learn GPU programming badly and move their code over to the GPU as much as possible. just like Asobo did with most of MSFS. otherwise we would never have seen that smooth performance on even ancient RTX 1080 Ti's that ryanbatc got from antiques or collectors stores. 😊

Hehe I was just doing that test....  I ran FT's Boston with FSLTL - the GPU/CPU was alternating a lot so it was being equally taxed I guess.  With clouds this is about the worst my PC does.  Very rarely there may be a momentary dip into the high teens with heavy low clouds.  Almost all Ultra settings here except terrain LOD is 300 instead of 400.  400 really melts my cpu.

BOSw_LTL by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr

 

 

TLOD 300 on a 1080 is pretty high.

 

17 minutes ago, turbomax said:

exactly. hopefully they will offer such options in the next update. nothing easier than that.

The developers have already said they are not interested in resizing textures.

I successfully resized all mine to 1024 and it really helps with performance when using live traffic. No need to have 4K and some 8K textures for traffic models. 

See here

 

Is this a FSTLT topic or "Who is buying a 4090" 😉