October 17, 20223 yr I have steam version. By 'reverting', I mean Steam library/ MSFS / properties / beta and choose WU 11 beta. Then boot up MSFS, close it down, remove the 2 folders, reboot MSFS. Done. If you remove the 2 folders right after reverting before booting MSFS, then MSFS will think you are still in version WU 11 and restore the same versions you just removed, which is not what you want. Edited October 17, 20223 yr by Fielder 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
October 17, 20223 yr Okay installed the beta. So far so good. FS2 seems to work okay. Seems just as blurry as DLSS. Still testing. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
October 17, 20223 yr Rob, in the beta I get stutters every flight near upgraded airports when in DX 11 (but not in DX 12). But I don't hear many reports of bad stutters in DX 11 from anybody else, it seems. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
October 17, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said: And I found it hard to deal with all the pointy noses with default real-time online traffic. Hi @Cpt_Piett I did what Corsten recommended here and I don't see any pointy noses now when using live traffic with FSLTL. If the livery or model isn't found it will fall back to the model you chose. But if there isn't a livery for it, it will pick up a random one (still better than a pointy nose, IMO). I also see some planes with blank liveries, but no pointy noses. I used the B738 folder. Alvega CPU: AMD 7800X3D | COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB | GPU: RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB OC | Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI |RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White
October 17, 20223 yr Author 39 minutes ago, Alvega said: Hi @Cpt_Piett I did what Corsten recommended here and I don't see any pointy noses now when using live traffic with FSLTL. If the livery or model isn't found it will fall back to the model you chose. But if there isn't a livery for it, it will pick up a random one (still better than a pointy nose, IMO). I also see some planes with blank liveries, but no pointy noses. I used the B738 folder. Thanks, I'll look into it. RealTraffic is not too bad, but of course has it's drawbacks too. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
October 17, 20223 yr Author 3 hours ago, turbomax said: no DLSS 3.0 will come to our rescue here, only new CPUs can mitigate this, hopefully some 30% "honest" fps increase coming from an upgrade from i9900K to 4.7 GHz. 13900K + RTX4090 vs R9 7950x + RTX4090 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
October 17, 20223 yr On 10/14/2022 at 3:07 PM, GSalden said: Is it safe to opt in the beta now ? After having read the CTD issues with the planes ? A beta is never "safe". This is why it's called a beta. If you want safe, stick with the stable version. People tend to confuse beta with "getting free word not allowed ahead of everyone else." Edited October 17, 20223 yr by Ricardo41
October 17, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said: 13900K + RTX4090 vs R9 7950x + RTX4090 I was not talking about the R9 7950x, but 7950x3D. and neither about 13900K, but the new Metro Lake generation, finally 7 nm for Intel. those 2 will be the new most powerful competitors for my next pc build. the MSFS anniversary edition will have to carry me through the next 4-6 months of impatience. price difference is not my main concern, considering the next generation of VR headsets based on Sony's new micro-Oled (Varjo Aero or better) may add yet another $ 1.000- $ 2.000 😊 Edited October 17, 20223 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
October 17, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, turbomax said: hopefully some 30% "honest" fps increase coming from an upgrade from i9900K to 4.7 GHz. I meant " from an upgrade from i9900K to R9 7950x3D @ 5.8 GHz. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
October 17, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said: Normally I get very good performance in DX12. But this is one of the situations where current hardware can't keep up. Perhaps a 5800X3D would perform better in similar scenarios. Oh well. Always on the hunt for better performance... Some strange results on that slide. The 12900KS is that much better than the 12900K? And even the 12700K showing better that the 12900K? And I understand the 1080p resolution is there to put load on the CPU rather than the GPU for the sake of the test, but real life would probably be 2k or 4k resolution for most serious simmers, so I wonder how that would affect things? A big leveller I reckon. No doubt the X3D chips with the high cache levels are the way to go though. I can't wait to see some AMD 7 series X3D benchmarks eventually. They should be superb. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
October 17, 20223 yr 46 minutes ago, bobcat999 said: real life would probably be 2k or 4k resolution for most serious simmers, so I wonder how that would affect things? A big leveller I reckon. exactly. as shown in other charts of the same test. Edited October 17, 20223 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
October 17, 20223 yr Su11 Beta. Start the flight in LSZH with 50 FPS and ending on approach at LFSB at 4 FPS. offensive initials not allowed.... Seems I am not alone https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/the-frame-drop-at-the-arrival-airport-is-severe/548714/12 Edited October 17, 20223 yr by altenae MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.
October 17, 20223 yr 56 minutes ago, altenae said: Su11 Beta. Start the flight in LSZH with 50 FPS and ending on approach at LFSB at 4 FPS. offensive initials not allowed.... Try to turn off and back on AI traffic when FPS drops. I read somewhere that this could help. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
October 17, 20223 yr 46 minutes ago, RobJC said: Try to turn off and back on AI traffic when FPS drops. I read somewhere that this could help. Will try. It also happened to me since yesterday https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/the-frame-drop-at-the-arrival-airport-is-severe/548714/12 MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.
October 17, 20223 yr flew from KBOS to KJFK no extreme drop. Did Calgary to Vancouver and back again, no extreme FPS drop. So it's not happening to everyone. Edited October 17, 20223 yr by Tuskin38
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