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Poor Performance with NVIDIA 4090

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Just tested the 4090 for the first time :

This card has more power than the 3090. With my balanced settings where both cpu and gpu were yellow and the limited message switched from cpu to gpu , now the gpu stays green ( 30ms for the 3090 and 18-22 for the 4090 ).

As I use Live AI ac + AIG the franerate stays the same. The 12900K @ 5.1/5.2 is clearly the bottleneck.

My 4266 16T memory is running at 3800 otherwise it is too much for the system.

Now downloading the SU11 beta….

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Edited by GSalden

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FOV : 200 degrees

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51 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

So, without DLSS3 and using SU10, the gains are around 25%, even though I did have more live traffic on my second test.

I.e. should be possible to get around 60fps with the Fenix at KJFK with frame generation on. Landing it there could be another matter as Noel mentioned. And whether it would be a smooth experience. 

Edited by Cpt_Piett

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

24 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

So, without DLSS3 and using SU10

Give SU11 and DLSS3 a whirl... 

32 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I.e. should be possible to get around 60fps with the Fenix at KJFK. Landing it there could be another matter as Noel mentioned. And whether it would be a smooth experience. 

If I turn Real Traffic off, performance increases dramatically. 

22 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Give SU11 and DLSS3 a whirl... 

Really not feeling like re-installing MSFS from scratch in case of issues. Everything is so stable now...

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5 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

If I turn Real Traffic off, performance increases dramatically. 

Sorry I meant with frame generation on. Posted too quickly. Those AI addons eat a lot of fps though. 

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

12 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Sorry I meant with frame generation on. Posted too quickly. Those AI addons eat a lot of fps though. 

That is correct. 
If I am at a major heb above 40 parked ac and Live Traffic then my framerate drops below 30.

PSXT + RT : 44 parked ac and Live Traffic 

 

Edited by GSalden

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21 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Thanks, I'll try RTSS but with a 120Hz limit and see how it is. 

How do you turn that on in RTS?

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

That is correct. 
If I am at a major heb above 40 parked ac and Live Traffic then my framerate drops below 30.

PSXT + RT : 44 parked ac and Live Traffic 

 

Is the stuttering a sync issue (VSYNC etc.) ?
How is your first impression of the 4090 ?

MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.

2 hours ago, GCBraun said:

So, first results with the 13700K and 4090 that replaced my 12700 and 3090

 

Its too bad you changed both at once. It would of been interesting to know the gains with cpu vs gpu.

Just now, altenae said:

Is the stuttering a sync issue (VSYNC etc.) ?
How is your first impression of the 4090 ?

It’s the Live Traffic. Although it is updated 30x per sec MSFS can’t make them appear completely smooth.

The 4090 indeed is more powerful than the 3090. Will give you 7/8% more fps in TAA mode. However when using DLSS 3 it doubles the framerate of the output frames.

My 12900K is now the culprit …

5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 -  MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb -  Corsair 5400  case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set  - 3x 75’ TCL tv.

13600  6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb  - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x  Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - 

FOV : 200 degrees

My flightsim vids :  https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0

 

Just now, GSalden said:

However when using DLSS 3 it doubles the framerate of the output frames.

Are you going to use DLSS3? 

1 minute ago, GSalden said:

It’s the Live Traffic. Although it is updated 30x per sec MSFS can’t make them appear completely smooth.

The 4090 indeed is more powerful than the 3090. Will give you 7/8% more fps in TAA mode. However when using DLSS 3 it doubles the framerate of the output frames.

My 12900K is now the culprit …

Seems even the 5800X3D beats the I9-13900K in combination with MSFS2020

MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.

32 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

How do you turn that on in RTS?

Setup=>enable frame rate limiter. Then framerate limit = 120 in the main window. Not getting any of the stutters and stuff that Digital Foundry got with v-sync doing it this way. 

Btw, have you got your 4090 up and running?

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

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8 hours ago, GSalden said:

Just installed the card. Ps 1000W that was already build in the pc.

Bios immediately gave a message that I installed another cpu ? ?My wireless keyboard/mouse stopped working.I have connected a wired keyboard/mouse.

Restarting takes at least 20 sec longer.

I will reinstall thee 3090 to see if the wireless keyboard/mouse will work again.

The 1000W PS is stabilized and imho is enough , but I have the new 1300W PS here.

- - - 

Update : the new card pushed the USB3 connector so it came loose from the mobo.

I am going to update to the latest firmware to see if it helps with the booting time.

When I installed the 4090 on my Asus MOBO, the first thing that happened to me was that it didn't turn on correctly, it stayed in Boot, etc. I had to do a Clear CMOS and BIOS re-update and from there, all good.

Eduardo Lee

(MROC)

7 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Btw, have you got your 4090 up and running?

Not yet, looking end of this week/start of next. Too much going on here. Just asked so I can be prepared when I am ready to go! 

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